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		<title>180: The Power of Natural Therapies in Cancer Treatment</title>
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</div></div></div><div class="tcb-flex-col" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa279" style=""><div class="tcb-col dynamic-group-jul7xw4x" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa297"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element dynamic-group-judxt25q" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa2a0"><h3 class="" id="t-1670711659751">Today's Guests...</h3></div><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv-styled_list" data-icon-code="icon-check"><ul class="tcb-styled-list"><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa2b2"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style"><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa2c5">I'm flying solo on this episode</span></li></ul></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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</div></div></div><div class="tcb-flex-col" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa381" style=""><div class="tcb-col dynamic-group-jul7xw4x" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa396"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element dynamic-group-judxt25q" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa2a0"><h3 class="" style="font-size: 24px !important;" id="t-1670711659752">Topics Discussed...w / Time Stamps</h3></div><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv-styled_list" data-icon-code="icon-check" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa3a9"><ul class="tcb-styled-list"><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa3c1"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa3d8" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa3e7"><span data-hours="0" data-minutes="0" data-seconds="0">00:00 - The Promise of Sauna Bathing</span></span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa3c1"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa3f3"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa3e7"><span data-hours="0" data-minutes="3" data-seconds="51">03:00 - Creating a Health Club Community<br></span></span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa3c1"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa3f3"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa3e7"><span data-hours="0" data-minutes="6" data-seconds="7">05:53 - The Numerous Sauna Health Benefits<br></span></span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa3c1"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa3f3"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa3e7"><span data-hours="0" data-minutes="8" data-seconds="14">09:12 - Thermal Stress and Health<br></span></span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa3c1"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa3f3"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-6790f400baa3e7"><span data-hours="0" data-minutes="12" data-seconds="38">12:05 - 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Practical Considerations for Sauna Use</span></span></li></ul></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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		<title>165: Why Your &#8216;Extra Virgin&#8217; Olive Oil Might Be a Dangerous Lie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Sandstrom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jan 2025 07:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>David Sandstrom talks about Pillar #6 of his 9 pillars of health: practicing emotional intelligence.</p>
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data-element-name="Heading Level 1"><div class="thrv_wrapper tve-toc-bullet tve-toc-bullet0 tve_no_icons tve-jump-scroll" data-target="#t-1741196262813" jump-animation="smooth" data-icon-target="toc-bullet-0-m7w8s0av" data-element-name="Icon Level 1" data-css="tve-u-67546f48257a28"><svg class="tcb-icon"><use href="#toc-bullet-0-m7w8s0av"></use></svg></div><a href="#t-1741196262813" class="tve-toc-anchor tve-jump-scroll" jump-animation="smooth">172: Turn Chaotic Thoughts Into Peaceful Calm</a></div><div class="thrv_wrapper tve-toc-heading tve-toc-heading-level0 tve_no_icons" data-tag="H2" data-css="tve-u-67546f482579e3" data-element-name="Heading Level 1"><div class="thrv_wrapper tve-toc-bullet tve-toc-bullet0 tve_no_icons tve-jump-scroll" data-target="#t-1741196262814" jump-animation="smooth" data-icon-target="toc-bullet-0-m7w8s0av" data-element-name="Icon Level 1" data-css="tve-u-67546f48257a28"><svg class="tcb-icon"><use href="#toc-bullet-0-m7w8s0av"></use></svg></div><a 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	<div class="tve-cb" data-css="tve-u-67546f48257ff6"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element thrv-plain-text dynamic-group-jujqll8w" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258002"><div class="tcb-plain-text" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258019" style="text-align: center;"><strong>1.</strong></div></div></div>
</div></div></div><div class="tcb-flex-col" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258024" style=""><div class="tcb-col dynamic-group-jul7xw4x" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258034"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element dynamic-group-judxt25q" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258045"><h3 class="" id="t-1670711659751">Today's Guests...</h3></div><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv-styled_list" data-icon-code="icon-check"><ul class="tcb-styled-list"><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258065"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style"><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258071">Olive Oil Producer and Sommelier: Marianna Devetzoglou</span></li></ul></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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Health Benefits of Extra Virgin Olive Oil</span></span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258156"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258199"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258178"><span data-hours="0" data-minutes="3" data-seconds="51">06:59 - The difference between grocery store olive oil and quality olive oil<br></span></span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258156"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258199"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258178"><span data-hours="0" data-minutes="6" data-seconds="7">14:29 - How to recognize quality extra virgin olive oil</span></span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258156"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258199"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258178"><span data-hours="0" data-minutes="8" data-seconds="14">18:32 - International Olive Oil Certification Counsel in Spain</span></span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258156"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258199"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258178"><span data-hours="0" data-minutes="12" data-seconds="38">22:52 - 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Oleosophia's quality control processes</span></span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258156"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258199"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258178"><span data-hours="0" data-minutes="15" data-seconds="40">48:24 - How to consume quality olive oil</span></span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258156"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258199"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-67546f48258178"><span data-hours="0" data-minutes="15" data-seconds="40">55:50 - How to order from Oleosophia</span></span></li></ul></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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		<title>154: God&#8217;s Love in Action: 9 Pillars of Health Explained</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Sandstrom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2024 07:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Hall of Fame Podcast Coach Dave Jackson talks about how he manages a busy work schedule with family life.</p>
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</div></div></div><div class="tcb-flex-col" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b08a0" style=""><div class="tcb-col dynamic-group-jul7xw4x" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b08b3"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element dynamic-group-judxt25q" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b07d7"><h3 class="" style="font-size: 24px !important;" id="t-1670711659752">Topics Discussed...w / Time Stamps</h3></div><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv-styled_list" data-icon-code="icon-check" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b08c3"><ul class="tcb-styled-list"><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b08e5"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b08f1" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b0905">02:01 - Holistic Health and the Three Parts of a Human Being</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b08e5"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b0910"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b0905">05:30 - The dolphin analogy for prayer</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b08e5"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b0910"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b0905">04:25 - The Nine Pillars of Health: Spiritual Component</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b08e5"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b0910"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b0905">05:48 - The Importance of Aligning with God's Design</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b08e5"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b0910"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b0905">09:40 - Pillar One: Love for God</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b08e5"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b0910"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b0905">16:57 - The Role of Obedience in Experiencing Blessings</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b08e5"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b0910"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-66cee78c4b0905">17:16 - 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The Spiritual Component of Health: Summary</span></li></ul></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2024 07:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The demonization of saturated fat the recommendation to consume more vegetable oils may be the worst nutritional advice ever.</p>
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</div></div></div><div class="tcb-flex-col" data-css="tve-u-664b3d370b7353" style=""><div class="tcb-col dynamic-group-jul7xw4x" data-css="tve-u-664b3d370b7360"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element dynamic-group-judxt25q" data-css="tve-u-664b3d370b7381"><h3 class="" id="t-1670711659751">Today's Guests...</h3></div><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv-styled_list" data-icon-code="icon-check"><ul class="tcb-styled-list"><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-664b3d370b73a0"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style"><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-664b3d370b73c8">I'm flying solo on this episode</span></li></ul></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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</div></div></div><div class="tcb-flex-col" data-css="tve-u-664b3d370b74f8" style=""><div class="tcb-col dynamic-group-jul7xw4x" data-css="tve-u-664b3d370b7515"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element dynamic-group-judxt25q" data-css="tve-u-664b3d370b7381"><h3 class="" style="font-size: 24px !important;" id="t-1670711659752">Topics Discussed...w / Time Stamps</h3></div><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv-styled_list" data-icon-code="icon-check" data-css="tve-u-664b3d370b7537"><ul class="tcb-styled-list"><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-664b3d370b7558"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-664b3d370b7580" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 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		<title>139: Cholesterol Myths Busted: The Shocking Truth About Statins</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Sandstrom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2024 07:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>In this jaw-dropping episode, I tackle a question from a listener about cholesterol and statins. </p>
<p>The post <a href="https://davidsandstrom.com/139-2/">139: Cholesterol Myths Busted: The Shocking Truth About Statins</a> appeared first on <a href="https://davidsandstrom.com">DavidSandstrom.com</a>.</p>
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0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-662fb3152d62b6">4:55 Cholesterol's crucial role in our physiology</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-662fb3152d6289"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-662fb3152d62c3"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-662fb3152d62b6">10:33 Statin side effects, including high blood sugar and cognitive issues.</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-662fb3152d6289"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-662fb3152d62c3"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 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0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-662fb3152d62b6">26:47 Causes of atherosclerosis, including damage to artery walls and buildup of plaque.</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-662fb3152d6289"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-662fb3152d62c3"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 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		<title>136: Biological Brilliance: Marvel at Your Fearfully, Wonderfully Made Self w/Dr. Ben Rall</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2024 07:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Ben Rall takes a deep dive into vitalism - the idea that our bodies are divinely designed to heal themselves.</p>
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</div></div></div><div class="tcb-flex-col" data-css="tve-u-65c79e24266607" style=""><div class="tcb-col dynamic-group-jul7xw4x" data-css="tve-u-65c79e24266618"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element dynamic-group-judxt25q" data-css="tve-u-65c79e24266626"><h3 class="" id="t-1670711659751">Today's Guests...</h3></div><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv-styled_list" data-icon-code="icon-check"><ul class="tcb-styled-list"><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-65c79e24266641"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style"><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-65c79e24266656">Dr. Ben Rall</span></li></ul></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-65c79e24266791">1:11 Dr. Ben's "red-pill" moment</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-65c79e24266760"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-65c79e242667a0"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-65c79e24266791">7:37 Vitalism and the body's innate intelligence.</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-65c79e24266760"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-65c79e242667a0"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-65c79e24266791">12:45 Where to turn when faced with a health challenge.</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-65c79e24266760"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-65c79e242667a0"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 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0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-65c79e24266791">39:00 FDA corruption and pharmaceutical industry influence.</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-65c79e24266760"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-65c79e242667a0"><svg class="tcb-icon tcb-local-vars-root" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-65c79e24266791">47:24 The most important part of health (It's not what you think).</span></li></ul></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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		<title>121: The 9 Pillars of Health Every Christian Needs to Know</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Sandstrom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2023 07:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Our mindset can make or break the outcomes we experience.</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://davidsandstrom.com/121-2/">121: The 9 Pillars of Health Every Christian Needs to Know</a> appeared first on <a href="https://davidsandstrom.com">DavidSandstrom.com</a>.</p>
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</div></div></div><div class="tcb-flex-col" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c6847" style=""><div class="tcb-col dynamic-group-jul7xw4x" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c6853"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element dynamic-group-judxt25q" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c6860"><h3 class="" id="t-1670711659751">Today's Guests...</h3></div><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv-styled_list" data-icon-code="icon-check"><ul class="tcb-styled-list"><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c6889"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style"><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c6892">I'm flying solo on this episode</span></li></ul></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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</div></div></div><div class="tcb-flex-col" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c6953" style=""><div class="tcb-col dynamic-group-jul7xw4x" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c6962"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element dynamic-group-judxt25q" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c6860"><h3 class="" style="font-size: 24px !important;" id="t-1670711659752">Topics Discussed...w / Time Stamps</h3></div><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv-styled_list" data-icon-code="icon-check" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c6983"><ul class="tcb-styled-list"><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c6992"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c69a5" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c69c2">2:00 God desires for us to be healthy, as seen in Scripture and our physical design.&nbsp;</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c6992"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c69a5" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c69c2">3:30 We must cooperate with God to achieve health through lifestyle choices.&nbsp;</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c6992"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c69a5" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c69c2">7:00 There are 3 parts of our being: spirit, mind, and body.&nbsp;</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c6992"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c69d9"><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 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	<div class="tve-cb"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element" style="" data-css="tve-u-64f7a5bd6c6c81">	 David Sandstrom 0:00 <br class="">The spirit is all about love relationships, love for God, love for others, and love for ourselves, the mind, we want to be our own MVP. M stands for mindset. Fi is victory over limiting beliefs. And P stands for practice emotional intelligence. And then the body. I call it food move and snooze. Nutrition, movement and sleep. So those are the nine focus areas. So we're going to unpack each of those one at a time now. Welcome to the Natural Health Matters podcast where it's all about maximizing your health potential, so that you could look and feel your best at any age. I'm your host, David Sandstrom, Naturopathic Doctor and Biblical Health Coach. And this is episode number 121.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 0:55 <br class="">This episode is part two, in a two part series on the natural health matters mission statement explained, the last episode, we talked about the fact that God wants us healthy. And there's quite a bit of biblical evidence for that, but also evidence in our physical design, that points to the idea that God wants us to be healthy. And we also see that there's a lot of glowing promises in Scripture regarding our health. But many of those promises have if then statements attached, they're conditional. So we have a role to play. We can't just claim these promises and live our lives any way we want. We have a role to play we want we need to cooperate with God in that goal of achieving vibrant health and vitality.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 1:39 <br class="">And I also talked about allopathic medicine versus nature, apathy, and how the naturopathic approach to health is closely aligned with biblical teaching. And I also talked about the love of God. And if we really understood we can really wrap our minds around the love of God, we wouldn't hesitate to run to Him and to do things his way. And when we do things his way, we can expect better outcomes, no guarantees. But that's just the way things work. So if you haven't listened to Episode 120, I encourage you to go back and listen to that episode. Now, I think you'll get a lot more out of this one if you do that. So I've really been looking forward to doing both of these episodes for quite some time. I've last year, so I've had a lot of guests on and I really appreciate them sharing their wisdom with us with the natural nation. But a lot of times, even though those guests are very, very knowledgeable, very smart people, great practitioners helping people. Sometimes their message is a little convoluted and not really concise. They haven't really taken the time to distill their message down and really refine it and be able to communicate it really well. In 30 or so minutes. It's a very difficult thing to do. And few people actually do that. Well. I'm going to do my best to do that for you here today. You know what I wrote my book, The Christians guide to Holistic Health, I met with an author very successful authors Her name is Shaun T Feld on and she sold over a couple million copies of marriage and relationship books. And she told me, you know, Dave, writing a book is great, but don't underestimate how difficult it's going to be to really refine your message and be able to get that message across in a very short period of time. And I listened, but I really didn't realize how spot on she was until I tried to do it, it really is a difficult thing to do. So here I am 120 episodes into the podcast, and are just now and feeling like I'm starting to really get the message together in an understandable way that people can understand. So I want to take this opportunity to be really unambiguous about my approach to health, and why I recommend the things that I do and when we when it comes to improving our health. But also, I want you to understand what the mission of this podcast is what what I'm trying to accomplish here. And it can't be done in five minutes. That's why I decided to do it in two episodes. And we've got a lot of ground to cover here. So fasten your seat belts, seat backs and tray tables in their upright and locked position. Electronic devices turned on episode 121. Part two of the natural health matters mission statement is ready for takeoff. So I want to help you maximize your health potential so that you can look and feel your best at any age. And we do that by aligning our lives more fully with God's natural design for spirit, mind and body. And when I say that I'm well aware that most people don't really understand the depth of what's in that statement. I know that's true because I was a practitioner with a brick and mortar office being paid to do health coaching. And I didn't know what Holistic Health was. So how's laypersons Sanchez? So that's why I want to really kind of clear the air and really define and unpack these words and what that really means. Human beings are spirit<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 5:00 <br class="">We have a mind it we live in a body, and a spirit connected to God will animate our minds in healthy ways. And a mind animated by a healthy spirit will animate our brains in healthy ways. And the brain runs the body. So each part of who we are is interconnected, and interdependent, which means what affects one part of our being will, by necessity alter the others for good or bad. So that's actually very good thing once we understand it, we start to embrace our makeup. Many years ago, when I was first learning how to fly, my flight instructor taught me to pay attention to three important focus areas in aviation are three pillars to safety. And he told me that if you do those three things, well, you go a long way toward maintaining your safety margin. And those three pillars were aviate, navigate and communicate. aviate means fly the plane. In aeronautical terms, we used to call it, keeping the shiny side up and the greasy side down, keep the wings level, fly the airplane first, that's first and foremost. Second, navigate, know where you are, and know where you're going. And it's very important to pay attention to that. And three, communicate, talk to your support people, first and foremost, aircraft control. And also other members of your crew, of course, is more to flying an airplane and those three things. But if you do those three things, well, you'll go a long way towards maintaining your safety margin and staying alive and having a long, healthy career. So we can apply that same concept to Holistic Health. There's three parts to a human being. And those three parts are complex, but we break each one of those down into three focus areas, or three pillars of health. And we kind of simplify things. And by doing that, we'll be building in health margin, and we'll go it'll go a long way towards improving our health and well being. So there's three parts to human being total of nine focus areas. So I've got I've come up with some mnemonics to help us memorize those. But just as the 35,000 foot view, here's what they are.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 7:06 <br class="">The spirit is all about love, relationships, love for God, love for others, and love for ourselves, the mind, we want to be our own MVP. M stands for mindset. Fi is victory over limiting beliefs. And P stands for practice, emotional intelligence. And then the body. I call it food move and snooze. Nutrition, movement and sleep. So those are the nine focus areas. So we're going to unpack each of those one at a time now. So let's start with the spirit because that's the most important. What's God's designed for our spirit? Well, when Jesus was asked, What's the greatest commandment? His reply was, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart with all your soul. And with all your mind, this is the greatest and foremost commandment. The second is like it, you shall love your neighbor as yourself. That's Matthew 22, verses 37 to 39. So the spirit is all about love relationships. Now I did a 18 part series on the spiritual component of health on this podcast. It starts in episode number 53. And it goes through episode 72. I think I had one or two guest interviews in between there. But it's a two part series. It's really good stuff. It's based around the spiritual section in my book, The Christians guide to holistic health. So if you want to take a deeper dive, I suggest going back listen to those episodes, we're going to hit the highlights here. So the first is love for God. So we need to learn how to surrender to God's loving kindness and his goodness. Matthew 6:33 says, Seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. And then Jesus Himself said, and John 14:15 If you love me, you'll keep my commandments. Now, I've mentioned this last episode, but it's worth repeating here. God loves us enough that when he gives us an admonition, it's for our benefit. And if it gives us a prohibition, it's for our protection. We've got to hold on to those two truths because God has our well being in mind. Jeremiah 29:11, and many of you know this, For I know the plans I have for you declares the LORD plans for welfare and not for calamity, to give you a future and a hope. So we don't follow God out of fear, obligation or guilt. We follow them out of a grateful heart that leads to a loving relationship. God has our well being in mind, and we should respond appropriately. I shared these verses in the last episode as well, but they're worth repeating this so good. Proverbs chapter four, verses 20 and 22. My son, give attention to my words, incline your ear to my sayings. Do not let them depart from your sight. Keep them in the midst of your heart, for their life to those To find them, and health to all their body. So the word of God is designed to bring us health and well being. Then there's Proverbs chapter three, verses seven and eight. Do not be wise in your own eyes, fear the Lord and turn away from evil. It will be healing to your body, and refreshment to your bones. So there's a spirit mind body connection right there. And again, it's God's desire and its preference that we enjoy vibrant health and vitality.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 10:31 <br class="">So we have a role to play here. And obedience to the Word of God produces better health outcomes. I talked about that in the last episode. Again, if you haven't listened Episode 120, go back and listen to that one down, because I break that down a little bit more. I'm not a follower of Jesus Christ for the perks. I don't treat God like a genie in a bottle. I follow him because he's worthy, and vibrant health vitality, are just nice fringe benefits or side effects to following it is just just the way things are. So the second love in the spiritual component of Health Is Love for others. So what's God's designed in loving others? Well, Matthew 22 were admonished to love our neighbors. And John 13:34. Jesus says this, A new commandment I give you that you love one another. Even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this, all men will know that you my disciples, if you have love for one another, so really is all about love, right? So relational connectedness is really good for our health. The longest study ever conducted on health and wellness is the Harvard study of adult development. And it started in 1938. And it's still ongoing. And the current director of the study, Robert waldinger, has a TED talk with 13 million views. In that talk, he says, loneliness kills. It's as powerful as smoking, or alcoholism. And that's from, you know, close to 100 years worth of research. That was the conclusion. And I referenced this study in my book is a 2011 study published in the American Journal of Epidemiology. It's called the rising relative risk of mortality for singles. Now, this was a meta analysis, which means it was a study of studies, it covered 60 years and 500 million people. That's no small study. And they found that under the worst conditions, lifetime, single men died up to 17 years younger than married men. And women didn't do much better. Lifetime, single women died 15 years younger. And that includes all marriages, not just good ones. So there's something very, very health promoting about strong, connected relationships. And then here's another one, a 2010 study published in Harvard Women's Health Watch. It's called the health benefits of strong relationships. These researchers in their summary said this, a lack of strong relationships, increased risk of premature death by 50%. That's roughly equivalent to smoking a pack of cigarettes a day, and greater than sedentary lifestyle, and obesity. Let me say that, again, a lack of strong relationships increased risk of premature death by 50%. That's roughly equivalent to smoking a pack of cigarettes a day, and greater than sedentary lifestyle and obesity. That's pretty staggering. And all of those studies were conducted pre COVID. Out here in the post COVID world, we have all kinds of studies coming out on the detrimental effects of social isolation and loneliness. It's a big deal. And you know, it's really heartwarming and encouraging to see science catching up with what the Bible has been teaching for 1000s of years. Bible says in Genesis 2:18, simply put, it is not good that the man be alone. Boy, God really meant that didn't he? He sure did.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 14:11 <br class="">The third love is love for ourselves. Now in Matthew 22, when Jesus is talking about the greatest commandment, he says this, you You shall love your neighbor as yourself. So I think this part about loving ourselves, and that that phrase there that Jesus used, often gets overlooked. Self love, is not selfish. It's actually the most selfless thing we can do. It you might be saying right now, Well, Dave, doesn't the Bible teach selflessness? Aren't we supposed to be serving others? Well, yes, it absolutely does. And we should. Philippians chapter two verses three and four says this. Do nothing from selfish your empty conceit. But with humility of mind regard one another as more important than your cells. Do not merely look out for your own personal interest. but also for the interests of others. So again, we mustn't pass over a gloss over this, this statement in here that says, we are to look out for our own personal interest. This passage is simply teaching that while you're doing that, you should be serving others as well. You see, we can only give out of our abundance, we can't give what we don't have, that many of you know, I was an airline pilot for 35 years. And I've heard this pa thousands of times, but it's worth repeating here. In the event of a change in cabin pressure, oxygen mess above your seat will drop. If this happens, grab the basket and pull it to the full extent of the tubing, wrap the elastic band around your head, Place the mask over your nose and mouth and breathe normally, do not worry if the mask doesn't fully inflate, oxygen is flowing. And here's the important part. If you're traveling with a child or someone who needs assistance, put on your mask first, and then assist the child. You see You can't help the child if you're unconscious. If there's a rapid decompression at 35,000 feet, your time of useful consciousness is about 20 seconds. So you've got to get your mask off, or you're not going to be of any use to the child in the same fashion. If we're spent spiritually, physically and emotionally, we're of little use to others.Now, we gotta remember this, the best time to build health is when we're feeling good. Most people don't look at it that way because they don't think about the health when they're feeling good. But what we want to do is build health margin. We want to have more vitality and more metabolic energy than we actually need to get through our days. Because life is going to throw some curveballs, we're going to have illness we're going to have accidents. And we want to have some health margin in there to soak up the bumps in the road like a shock absorber. You know the best way to be cancer is to not get it in the first place. It works every time. I heard John Lee Dumas the the host of the entrepreneurs on fire podcast. He said this the other day when he was interviewing a health expert. He said, a healthy person wants to 1000 things. They want to go paddleboarding, they want to do epic hikes, they want to go snow skiing, play with the grandkids, you name it, healthy person wants to 1,000 things and unhealthy person, they want one thing, they want to get their health back. And I think that's really, to the point that's really profound. Because that is absolutely true. Because I've I've had my health taken from me, and that is all you want. You just want to feel good again. And I'll bet many of you can relate to them. So it's easier to keep up than it is to catch up. So the best time to pursue health is when we're feeling good build health margin, then<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 17:48 <br class="">Another aspect of self care is self talk. Each of us has an inner narrator. And it's that that voice inside our heads that we talked to ourselves with, and what does the Bible say about that? What's God's preference for our, our self talk? Well, it's pretty clear in Philippians, four, eight, Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence, if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things. So that's God's preference for our thought life, that we dwell on pure, noble, excellent things.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 18:30 <br class="">Another thing we have to do with our thought life is we have to purge ourselves of any self loathing. Now, that sounds like a strong statement. But many of us use statements or talk to ourselves in a way that we would never do to a friend will say things to ourselves, like, I'm so stupid or ugly, or I'm such a loser. I'm always screwing things up. I'll never amount to anything. We would never say those kinds of things to a friend. But we don't think twice about saying it to ourselves. There's something wrong with that. We've got to stop doing that. Every human being has great value. I'm convinced that if there was only one person on planet Earth, that Jesus still would have been willing to come and die for that person. Jesus didn't die a gruesome bloody death on a cross for pond scum. All human beings have great worth. Every person on this planet has intrinsic value. Genesis 1:27 says God created man in His own image in the image of God, He created him male and female, He created them. So that's what gives us great value is were created in the image of God. So God thinks we have great worth. Why don't we so I'm 139:14 is more evidence of this, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made Wonderful are Your works in my soul knows it very well. So that's the spiritual component to help this more but that's the highlights<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 20:01 <br class="">So moving on the mind, or the soul, when the Bible uses the term soul or mind, they're synonymous means the same thing. It's, it's who you are. It's, it's you, it's me. And that's what we are inside, right? What's God's designed for our mind or our soul? While we have a pretty clear statement here in Romans 12:2 be no longer conformed to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. So I have a mnemonic here that I like to use it's MVP, M stands for mindset. So the first thing you want to do with the proper mindset is to find your why. Because when you find your why you'll find your way, when you have a reason for pursuing health, you're going to be far more motivated to make positive changes. So ask yourself a couple questions to help out with this. Why have I stopped doing that I used to enjoy because of my health challenges. Who would I like to serve? Is there a cause you're passionate about? Do you have a heart for the homeless or single moms or fatherless kids? What are you passionate about? Who would you like to serve? That can help motivate you and go a long way? When you find your why you'll find your way.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 21:23 <br class="">Another thing about mindset is there's three really crucial questions that we should all ask ourselves, especially if we're dealing with a major health challenge. The first one is, do I want to be well, in John, chapter five, Jesus meets the invalid at the thirst pool. And he asked him a strange question. He says to him, after talking with him for a while, he says, Do you want to be well? And I think that's kind of a strange question. But Jesus asked it. So there must be something about this. You know, there actually are reasons why someone may not want to be well, it would happen at a subconscious level. They'd never tell you this, but they might believe it inside. Maybe they're receiving a disability check because of their illness. Or maybe they're finally getting the sympathy that they craved as a child. And it actually that sympathy feels good. So we've got to make sure that there's no blocking factors going on here with my desire, our desire to be well. The second question is, do I believe I can be well, now this goes a long way as well. If you believe you, there's no way you can recover from this illness, that's going to be a blocking factor. We all know about the placebo effect. When someone takes a sugar pill or a saline solution, they actually experience the desired outcome that that that drug is purported to elicit. But there's also a no SIBO effect. When someone gets a placebo, they sometimes experience the side effects that that drug is purported to elicit. So there's a real powerful mind body connection here, we shouldn't we can't afford to, to ignore it. So you got to ask yourself a question. If you're dealing with a major health challenge, do I believe I can be well, and again, God has built wellness into our design, our default setting is health. If you woke up breathing this morning, there's hope. Okay, so this is something that's worth spending some time on. And another question is, Do I deserve to be well, no, someone might be overwhelmed with guilt from something they've they did a long time ago. And they might feel unworthy. Or they might feel like God is punishing them with with an illness. So none of that is true, we are worthy. And God is not punishing us. Now he does permit trials. Sometimes he allows a trial in our lives, because that's the only way to get our attention. You know, the there's an old saying that says there's no atheists in a foxhole. So sometimes God needs to get our attention. And he will allow a physical trial, to do just that. Sometimes a trial is what the great physician will use to help us grow and mature. But Romans 828 is true. All things do work together for good for those that love God. And God is our Heavenly Father, we got to hold on to this. And like any loving parent, fathers and mothers would prefer that their kids learn their lessons without the trial. And God would prefer that we learn our lessons without the trial either. So let's not let our poor lifestyle choices bring on a physical trial that God would prefer to spirit from Reverend Jeremiah 29:11. God wants good things for us.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 24:33 <br class="">So the V in MVP is victory over limiting beliefs. Now, when I was putting together this mnemonic, I actually struggled with using the term victory. It sounds a little radical, but there actually is a battle going on for our hearts and minds. Ephesians 6:12 says, For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers against the powers against the world's forces. of darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in heavenly places. I wish this weren't the case. But spiritual warfare is real. And Satan has come to steal, kill and destroy John 10:10. He wants to steal our peace. He wants to kill our joy, and he wants to destroy our health. Why does he want to take our health away? Because he knows that without our health, we become ineffective for the kingdom. That's what he wants to do. He wants to deactivate us. That's his mission. John 8:44 forces, Satan is a liar, and the father of lies. So what kind of lies might he be tried to convince us about our health? Well, one of the big ones that I found is genetic determinism. You know, since the since research is mapped out the human genome, we have a tendency to blame everything on our genetic makeup. You know, there's a really cool video, I'm gonna show a clip here, if you're on the if you're watching the video on YouTube, you can see this, it's a clip from the 1930s. And it's a busy street corner in New York City. And this has been color enhanced, and it's really it's kind of like, time traveling and watching people, you know, people watching here on a street corner. But the interesting thing about this video is, these people are all fit. They move gracefully, they have great posture. I didn't see one obese person in this video, and this literally hundreds people here. And it's amazing how healthy they are. And I thought to myself, when I watched this, were all the people with the fat genes? They sure didn't come up that day. And if you haven't, if you if you listen to the audio only, you might want to check out the video version, watch this video, it's pretty cool. So we've been told things like, if you're an alcoholic, you probably have an alcoholism gene. If you have cancer running in your family, you probably have a cancer gene. And then we think we have this time bomb inside of us just ready to go off. Not not a good place to be.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 27:05 <br class="">Here's an important point. Genes are not destiny. I believe the significance of our genetic makeup has been overstated when it comes to our health outcomes. Human beings have about 24,000 genes, her fruit fly has not far behind with 14,000 genes. So it's not how many genes we have. It's not how complex they are. What matters to our health outcomes is our genetic expression. So the DNA is a complex set of instructions. And not all of the DNA is turned on at the same time. DNA is found in the nucleus of a cell. And it's the extracellular environment, the environment that the cells live in, that will expose or uncover or cover certain segments of the DNA code. That's called genetic expression. And that's what determines how that gene is expressed at any given moment. So what determines the environment, the extracellular fluid around a cell lifestyle factors, what we're talking about here, which we have a lot of control over. genes do have impact, you know, they do matter. But they matter far less than we've been led to believe. It's lifestyle habits that have far more impact on our health outcomes. If you want to read a great book on this topic, pick up the Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton are really good read. It's not it's not a light read. But man, is it good. He makes a slam dunk argument for the fact that genes are not destiny.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 28:41 <br class="">So what are some more limiting beliefs that we need to address? How about this one? Things will never change. I'll never get out of debt, those types of predictions about the future? Who's the one that knows the future? God's the only one that knows the future, not us. So we've got to stop playing God with those kinds of beliefs. How about this one? I'm just unlucky. Well, I believe there's no such thing as luck. Luck doesn't just float through the universe didn't land on some people and not on others. That's not true. If you want to use the term luck, I would define it this way. Luck happens when preparation meets opportunity. That's luck. Other than that, there's no such thing as luck. All right, how about this about this lie? The universe is just conspiring against me. or something similar. The devil made me do it. Phrases like, oh, the bins just happened? Or the chocolate cake got me? Or how about this one and this is a big one. Alcoholism is a disease or drug addiction is a disease. When there's not a shred of evidence that says that either one of those addictions is a disease. I think it's an attractive message that people like to hear be because it absolves them of the personal responsibility. So they put blinders on and believe a lie. So how do we proceed? What are we supposed to do? We balance those untrue thoughts with truth. We replace lies and unproductive thoughts with truthful, productive ones. Jesus himself said in John 14, six, I am the way and the truth, and the life. So when we do things God's way, and we replace lies with truth, we replace unproductive thinking with productive thinking. That's part of aligning our lives more fully with God's natural design. So when we do things God's way, you won't regret it. Second Corinthians 10:5 talks about the spiritual battle, it says, We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God. And we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. And then there's First Corinthians 10:13, No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man. But God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the wave escape, that you may be able to bear it. So we are sentient beings, we have agency. So as a result, we have some choices to make. And God says we can be victorious. Isn't that a wonderful promise? Yeah, I believe it is.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 31:31 <br class="">So how do we identify and correct unhealthy thinking patterns? Well, one of the things I included in my book is a method I came up with it, I call it the ABCDE method. And again, it's another mnemonic to help us remember these things. So A stands for activating event. B stands for beliefs, or self talk. C stands for consequences of thinking that way. D stands for disputing those beliefs. And E stands for enjoying the energy shift. So A activating event, that's when we make a mountain out of a molehill when something happens, or somebody says something, and it pushes our buttons. So if you're having trouble identifying what an activating event is, my advice is ask your spouse, they will probably be able to tell you very easily, they'll be able to spot those things easier than we can, if you're not married, s ask a close friend, they can usually see things that we can't. So a activating event, when you're something that just sets you off. So be the beliefs or self talk that go along with that event. So we've got to have a little look under the hood here, we got to do a little self reflection and say, Why am I reacting that way? What is it about my makeup, the causes me to just, you know, have a hair trigger? Right? So a little self reflection will go a long way. Again, talking this through with your spouse or a close friend will help? And then C? What are the consequences of thinking and believing that way? When I react that way, what happens? Where does it lead me? Where does it? Where does that take me? And how does it affect others. So it's important to explore the consequences. And you'll see when the consequences are undesirable, probably means you're believing some lies. D is disputing those beliefs. So we replace thoughts with more productive ones. Second Corinthians 10:5, we're taking every thought captive. And when we do that, we take the unproductive thought throw it away, replace it with a productive one, or throw away the lie, replace it with truth, then we enjoy the energy shift. So we enjoy more of the third with the Spirit, which is peace. So I've created a PDF that'll help you walk through this process in writing, it really helps to write this down, not just keep it in your head. So I'm going to make that available as a content upgrade a free upgrade, go to davidsandstrom.com /121. And you can pick up a copy of that upgrade. So the P and MVP stands for practice emotional intelligence. Now the first thing we have to do to increase our emotional intelligence is to expand our emotional vocabulary. So I recommend you use an emotion wheel. There's a lot of emotion wheels online, but the one I like to use is put together by all the feelz and that spelled F E E L Z. And you start at the center of the wheel and you work your way out. So you take something like surprised and surprise could be startled or confused and lost you get up level of surprise could be shocked or dismayed and not shaken up even further. It could be frightened or panicked. So there's varying degrees of these emotions so it's good that we can put it's good if we can put words to them. Anger could be mad or frustrated, or could be infuriated or hostile. So there's different levels. And it really helps when you're sorting these things out, to have a name to what you're feeling what you're experiencing. And another thing we want to do is avoid emotional constipation. And I know that sounds a little crude, but it's a pretty good analogy. It's pretty good metaphor. When we eat, we put food in our mouths, we chew on it, we swallow it and take it in, then our body goes to work, digesting it and extracting the useful nutrients from it. And then when it's through doing that, we eliminate the waste. And if we don't eliminate the waste, well, things can get a little smelly. Right? So we want to do the same thing with our emotions, we want to take them in, we want to chew on them, we want to digest them, we want to say to ourselves, what can I get out of this emotion? What is this? What is this emotion telling me about the situation or about myself, extract the usefulness from them, and then let them go. Because if we don't let them go, they're gonna rot. They're gonna they're gonna fester inside. And you know, disappointment can turn into bitterness, and resentment. And those emotions, not good. We don't call those emotions, toxic emotions for nothing.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 36:21 <br class="">Another thing we have to do to increase our emotional intelligence is avoid emotional reasoning. Emotional reasoning says, If I feel it, it must be true. Or on the other side of that coin, is, if I don't feel it, it can't be true. So emotions are good to help us explain and make sense of the events in our lives. But they're not good, objective measures of truth. So we've got to be careful of that.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 36:51 <br class="">Another important part of emotional intelligence is emotional responding. So this has a little bit of a overlap with loving others. But that's just the nature of who we are. This there's a interconnectedness and interdependence to all three parts of who we are. So this one, this one overlaps with love for others. But Romans : says this rejoice with those who rejoice, and weep with those who weep. So in other words, we want to respond appropriately. If someone is emoting toward us, we want to respond appropriately. So if someone is expressing frustration or disappointment or hurt, the last thing they need is a pep talk or advice. That hurting person needs compassion, empathy support. If their child just got a failing grade on a big test, you wouldn't say something like, well, at least his older sister is a straight A student, it wouldn't be appropriate. If a friend of yours just had a miscarriage. The last thing you want to say is something like, well, at least you can still have children. Or at least you still have two healthy kids. That would just add to the hurt, you want to respond. You want to hurt with those who hurt, okay? You want to weep with those who weep when someone is expressing our hurtful event in their lives, if you're tempted to respond with well, at least keep it to yourself. Don't Don't go there, it's only going to add to their hurt. A better phrase to use in those situations that I just mentioned would be something like this. Man, that's gotta hurt real bad. I can't imagine the pain you're going through. But I want you to know I'm here for you. Sometimes you don't even need words, just a hug, or a mutual shed tear is all this necessary. That's what that person needs that moment. That's the emotional responding. So remember, relational connectedness is extraordinarily good for our health and well being. So emotional responding, can go a long way towards bringing peace for yourself, but also peace and support and connectedness with another human being that needs it.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 39:05 <br class="">So you know, there's a lot of research been done on these blue zones around the world, where people have these pockets of people that have a lot of sanitarians people that have lived to 100 years older, more places like Okinawa, Japan, Sardinia, Italy, the Nicoya Peninsula and Costa Rica. And Loma Linda, California is one of them as well. So the researchers are studying their diet and what they like to eat and thinking we're gonna we're gonna find out what it is that keeps these people living so long. But what they found is their diets are all over the place. They're the all kinds of different things. But these people end up enjoying vibrant health well as their later years. But what they do so they don't have much in common with their diets. But what they do have in common is a strong sense of community. And they enjoyed a positive relational connectedness with their neighbors, friends and family. Oh, Ah, that's very, very good for our health. We talked about the studies or studies earlier in this podcast for the body.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 40:06 <br class="">What's God's designed for our body? Well, we have nutrition movement in sleep. And the mnemonic for that is food. Move, and snooze. Okay, nutrition. This is a big one, right? We could obviously do a whole podcast on this alone for sure. Right? But if we go to the Bible, and we're looking for nutritional advice, it's a little bit on the vague side, what we have the Levitical dietary laws, but they're not really useful. One of the one of the dietary restrictions in there is don't eat bats. Well, I can tell you this. I'm walking in complete victory on that particular command. I have absolutely no compulsion to eat a bat. Praise, praise God, hallelujah. For that one. Do I have a witness? But anyway, so another thing that that's included in the political law for the dietary restrictions is we're not supposed to eat birds of prey, like eagles are vultures, because they're basically nature's garbage cleaners, and they could have a lot of toxins inside of them. So God says the nation of Israel avoid those kinds of birds. So there are there's some usefulness there, but it's, it's kind of limited. And over in the New Testament, First Corinthians 10:23 says this, everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial. First Timothy 4:4 says this one is specifically talking about food sacrifice to idols, it says this, For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with gratitude. So don't miss that phrase created by God in nature, not by man in a laboratory.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 41:48 <br class="">So that leads us to the number one rule for healthy eating, and that is this eat food as close to its God given natural form as possible. So we want to avoid processed foods. The more man gets his hands on our food supply, the worse it is for us. So food companies are more concerned with their profits than they are with our health. So in the name of profits, they add things like chemical flavoring, MSG, chemical coloring, like red dye number 40. chemical preservatives, texturing agents, anticaking, agents, sugar, usually in the form of cheap, inexpensive, high fructose corn syrup, which is a highly processed food, processed iodized salt, they put harmful fats in there. Processed foods are full of bad oils, hydrogenated oils, excessive amounts of seed oils with lots of alpha linoleic acid. And ALA has been shown to produce some systemic inflammation in the body is responsible for for a lot of illnesses. They put a lot of canola oil, which, by the way, there's no such thing as a canola seed, it's actually a rapeseed, and canola oil is another form of processed oil that used to be used for machinery lubricant, but now they put it in our food cottonseed oil, corn oil, soybean oil, all of those oils are highly processed full of harmful ALA, this, you know, in consumed in high quantities, and we also over consume Omega six fatty acids when we consume too many of those, those oils and processed foods. So also are BPA from packaging. So there's a lot of thought or reasons to get away from packaged foods, packaged processed foods. So we should tend towards single ingredient foods, and when we do will dramatically reduce our sugar intake and dramatically reduce the amount of chemicals that we're ingesting with our food. So here's a good rule of thumb. If it comes in a box, a package or a container or through a window, it's probably not good for us. Right? It's suspect. If you can't pronounce an ingredient on the label, put it back on the shelf, it's probably not good for you. If you can't buy that ingredient, yourself at a local grocery store, probably are well serve, putting that product back on the shelf. Alright, there's one other thing I want to say about about diet right now. And I know there's a lot of disagreement as to what's the world's healthiest diet? You know, is it is it keto? Is it vegetarianism? Is it raw veganism? Is it Mediterranean? You know, is it paleo? What What is it what's best? Well, I believe that God designed human beings to be omnivores, which is to eat both meat and vegetables, and fruits, of course.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 44:37 <br class="">So I'd like to talk about the vegetarian carnivore debate for a minute. There are a lot of Bible believing Christians that believe that the Bible teaches vegetarianism. And they would refer you to Genesis 1:29 Where it says this. Then God said, Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, in every tree which has fruit yielding seed. It shall be food for you. And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the sky. And to everything that moves, I have given every green plant for food. And it was so. So that was Genesis chapter one, when God first created Adam and Eve, and put them in the garden, and it's pretty clear, it sounds like wow, that pretty much does teach vegetarianism, doesn't it? Well, if we move a few pages to the right in Genesis chapter nine, we see this starting in verse one. And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, Be fruitful, and multiply and fill the earth, the fear of you and the terror of you will be on every beast of the earth, and on every bird of the sky, with everything that creeps on the ground, and all the fish of the sea into your hand they are given, every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you. I give all to you, as I gave the green plant. So after the flood, when Noah and his family emerged from the ark, there was a shift, something happened, it appears as though God's original design was for humans to be vegetarians. But a great shift took place after the flood. And we now see that there's a clear instruction here, that human beings are to eat animal based products. Right, so that I hope that clears the air. There's more to say on this. But I think we can see that the Bible clearly teaches that human beings are designed to be omnivores, were to consume both fruits and vegetables, and meats.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 46:38 <br class="">So we have to understand though that there is a metabolic individuality. The exact amount of protein and fat and carbohydrates that we consume is really an individual thing. It varies with the amount of stress level order. It varies with our activity level, our age. And it also varies with how metabolically healthy we are and how many health challenges we're experiencing. The gut microbiome has a great deal to do with this, the level of insulin resistance we're experiencing. Do we have hypothyroidism, the HPA axis, the hypothalamus, pituitary adrenal axis, all of those things play into each person have any metabolic individuality. So anybody that tells you and it's dogmatic about they found the perfect human diet, and this is it, and you need to implement it to be careful of that. Just just be be leery of those types of dogmatic statements, because it's a very individual thing.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 47:35 <br class="">But again, I think we can use the Bible as a baseline. And we can also use observable science to back up what we learned from the Bible. So the next part of how we're to treat our bodies is movement or move. So, yes, we need to exercise I think it's pretty clear, I don't have to spend too much time convincing you that our bodies are designed for movement was supposed to exercise was supposed to be experiencing some type of exercise on a daily basis. There's a lot said on that. And I don't think we'd really dive too deep into that on this episode. So another important thing that we have to get moving is our lymph fluid. You know, the blood is pumped through the body with the heart. And it's important to get our heart rate up so that we get blood flow moving, that's pretty simple task. But getting your lymph fluid moving is little more difficult because the lift fluid does not have a pump like the heart, it moves through muscle contraction. Now it's important to make sure our lift is moving because we we carry toxins out of the body with the lymph fluid. And we also carry immune cell components like white blood cells from the bone marrow to the infection site. So it's very important to keep our lymph moving, if we don't, we're going to get very toxic real fast. So the lymph system has one way check valves. So when our muscles contract in, put, apply pressure to those lit veins, it pushes the lymph fluid through this one way check valve and it opens and then closes. So when the muscle has to contract multiple times to get that, that lift, fluid flowing, that's the weight lift fluid moves. So it's important to use body movement to get your lymph fluid going. That's an important discussion. One of the great ways to get your lymph fluid moving is jump on a trampoline that weightlessness moment up in the air and a trampoline helps get that one way check valve exercise. So another thing we have to think about moving is are the food through the alimentary canal. So we want to process our food we want to digest it well. And then we want to eliminate so you want to make sure you're having at least one bulky stool movement per day. If we don't do that, we're going to be happy with toxins are going to be backing up in our system. If you're not eliminating these, there's things you can do. You can drink more water exercise helps with that. There's also some herbal supplements you can take like cascara sagrada bark on A few different things to get get your digestion moving. But if you haven't a little real problem with constipation, you probably have some work to do on the microbiome, you probably have some undesirable microscopic organisms living in there that really don't belong. It might be time to get with a practitioner, and figure out how you can restore the balance to your microbiome in the gut. Very important. So food, move, and snooze.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 50:26 <br class="">The last one is sleep here. How do we treat our bodies? What's God's design for sleep? Well, first thing I would say is think of sleep as a nutrient because it is. In episodes of early on of the podcast, I did a deep dive into what happens during sleep, and what we could do for a better night's sleep. And it's episode six and seven. I called the podcasts Holistic Health Matters back then. But it's a sixth and seventh of the natural health matters podcast, you can take a deep dive with me into what happens during sleep, and how to get a better night's sleep. But here's the highlights. So when we sleep, we do all kinds of bodily processes, we process our emotions, we balance hormones, we Detox our major organs and systems. For instance, the large intestine is designed to eliminate somewhere around five and 7am. One of the more important detoxification that goes on is we Detox our brains. There's a system called the glymphatic system that's very active during sleep. And what happens is our brain cells actually shrink. And it allows cerebral spinal fluid to flush through our brains and flush toxins out. This is a very important part of what goes on during sleep. So we really ought to treasure our sleep. And we ought to think of it like a nutrient because it is. So again, Episode Seven, I go into a lot of details on how to get a better night's sleep. One of the suggestions I have for that is try to get to bed by 10, or at the latest 11 Because our adrenal glands will do their recharging before midnight. Also, we experience longer periods of deep sleep before midnight, and deep sleep is where a lot of our rejuvenation takes place. So it's not accurate to say, Well, I'm just going to go to bed at two and get up at 10. And I still get my eight hours asleep, you will not be getting a full night's rest. If you do that. You want to get to bed before midnight, preferably before 11 Even better before 10 Or by 10. Another thing you could do to help with sleep is don't eat within three hours of bedtime. digestion takes a lot of energy. And especially if you have some difficulty just foods like wheat, dairy and those types of things that give a lot of people trouble that can interfere with your nighttime rest as well. And another suggestion I have is to create a spa like atmosphere or sanctuary in your bedroom. You want to remove any clutter. If you have an exercise machine or a desk in your in your bedroom, if you can do it, I suggest taking it out of there. Don't let your bedroom double as a gym or a home office. You want to get in a state of mind of restfulness and relaxation in your bedroom. Another thing you could do to create a spa like atmosphere is get put some houseplants in your bedroom peace lilies philodendron ferns, they make they all make good health plates. Another thing you may want to do is lower the temperature down to about 70 degrees, then a lot of research shown that cooler room provides provides better sleep because our bodies have to lower their core body temperature by about two degrees in order to sleep well. So if you're if you're too hot, that's going to interfere your sleep as well. Also, it's God's designed that we sleep in complete darkness. Ideally, you want to not be able to see your hand when it's directly in front of your face. You want it that darkened room if you can. So to do that, you're going to need some blackout curtains, I recommend a company called nice town. They have some really good quality inexpensive blackout curtains. You put them up with a curved curtain rod that helps fold the curtain around towards the wall. And they really do a pretty good job of making things darkened room even if you have light bright streetlights outside, they do a really good job. I'll put a link to those in the show notes as well. Another thing you could do, if you haven't trouble sleeping, is use progressive muscle relaxation. Now, there's a lot of YouTube videos on this. And basically real quick is you. We all experience we hold on to tension in various parts of our body. Sometimes it's our back, sometimes it's the neck could be legs. So what you do with progressive muscle relaxation is you tense up a portion of your muscles. So I like to start with my calves. And then when you tense up for a few seconds you inhale, maybe maybe 567 seconds, inhale, and then when you exhale, you're inhaling through your nose, exhale through pursed lips through your mouth. And you make sure that your exhale is longer than you're inhale, and you simultaneously relax those muscles. And you'll be telling your body that it's safe. It's okay to relax. And then after you go through it, the cast, move up to the thighs, and then move to the back, and so on and so forth. So you get your whole body done. And it's a really good way. There's been a lot of research done on this. And it's very effective at reducing stress, and reducing sleep latency, how long it takes to fall asleep, and the quality of sleep you get.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 55:27 <br class="">Another thing you could do to help with a better night's sleep is to schedule a time to talk with your spouse, ask them about their day. Again, relational connected this right? You can journal, I find find journaling useful, especially at times when I'm really worried about something or I have a big day ahead or a big week ahead. By journaling and writing it down. You put your thoughts on paper, and you give yourself permission to let it go until tomorrow, you putting it down on paper, and you're going to read it later. So you can let it go now. So it's journaling is very useful. Also, of course, you've probably guessed it prayer, you know, meditate on the Word of God. That's an excellent thing to do before sleep, as well as just when you wake up in the morning as well. But especially when you go into sleep. So again, if you want more on this, go to episode seven, and I have a lot of tips for getting a better night's sleep.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 56:22 <br class="">All right. So that was a mouthful. So let me summarize a little bit. We maximize our health potential by aligning our lives more fully with God's natural design for spirit, mind and body. God's desire for a spirit. It's all about love, relationships, love for God, love for others, and love for ourselves, our mind, we want to be our own MVP. We want to focus on having the proper mindset. We want to experience victory over limiting beliefs, and practice emotional intelligence for the body. We want to address our food move in snooze, nutrition, eat food as close to its God given natural form as possible. Embrace movement, not only exercise, but lift, fluid movement, and digestive movement as well and elimination, as well as good quality sleep. So there you have it. Those are my recommendations. Those are my nine pillars of health, for how we align our lives more fully with God's natural design for spirit, mind and body. There's more to it than that. But those are the highlights.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 57:33 <br class="">Thanks for hanging in there with me. I know this was a long episode, we covered a lot here. But, you know, I really think that I really needed to do this, I really need to unpack these words, so that you the natural nation will know what I'm talking about what I state the mission statement for the podcast. So thanks for hanging in there. Hey, by the way, if you enjoyed these two episodes, would you share them with your friends? share them on social media spread the word. It's not easy to find a practitioner. That approach is health and wellness with a biblical worldview and his frame of mind of trusting our health outcomes to God. And if you if you're enjoying the podcast, I really appreciate you sharing it with a friend. That's it for now. Thank you for listening. I'll talk to you next time be blessed.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div></div>
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		<title>96: How to Cultivate Sustainable Habits for an Uncommon Life w/Terry Tucker</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2022 07:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c6a6">11:41 Control your mind or it will control you</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c680"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c695" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c6a6">14:45 Bobby Knight has his players imagine shooting free throws</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c680"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c695" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c6a6">18:22 Shirley Babashoff on winners and losers</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c680"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c6b7"><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c6a6">19:25 Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c680"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c695" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 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0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c6a6">22:55 What will you leave behind?</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c680"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c695" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c6a6">26:48 Dave's message</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c680"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c695" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 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class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c6a6">37:45 We are not in control of much</span></li></ul></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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	<div class="tve-cb"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element" style="" data-css="tve-u-631a0a4d25c868">	 Terry Tucker 0:00 <br class="">And I remember when I was growing up playing basketball, I remember reading about a coach who wanted to improve his team's free throw shooting percentage, but he wasn't sure how to go about it. So he took half the team. And after practice that team, that part of the team shot 50 free throws, and the other half of the team just sat on the sidelines and close their eyes and saw themselves shooting free throws. At the end of the season. The players that were better free throw shooters were not the ones that practiced every day. They're the ones that saw themselves practicing every day, because in your mind you never missed and the same part of your mind where you say you want to improve your free throws, you're doing free throw out for free throw out for free throw the same part of your mind that lights up when that occurs when your brain is making those connections is the same part of your mind that lights up when you think about making those connections.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 0:55 <br class="">Welcome to the Natural Health Matters podcast where it's all about maximizing your health potential, so that you can look and feel your best at any age. I'm your host, David Sandstrom, Naturopathic Doctor and Biblical Health Coach, and this is episode number 96.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 1:14 <br class="">Today, we have in the show, Terry Tucker, Terry is a personal development and mindset expert. His mission is to motivate, inspire, and help people live their extraordinary purpose. His book is called Sustainable Excellence 10 principles to lead in your uncommon and extraordinary life. Terry, welcome back to Natural Health Matters.<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 1:34 <br class="">Thanks a lot, David. I'm really looking forward to talking with you again.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 1:38 <br class="">Absolutely. Well, you're my first repeat guest. And with with nearly 100 episodes in having you back, I think speaks volumes to the power of your message. I think you were on Show episode number 23. Back when the show was called holistic health matters. And it's one of the most widely downloaded episodes that I've done. And I've gotten a lot of comments on it on how really inspiring your message is. So I heard you on another podcast, and I said, you know, I think it's time to invite Terry back on so welcome back. Well, thank you,<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 2:11 <br class="">thank you very much. You keep saying that my head's gonna get bigger, bigger lobby.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 2:17 <br class="">It's all true it's all true. So, anyway. So how you been? What have you been up to over the last 18 months? Or whatever it's been?<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 2:25 <br class="">Yeah, I have, I've been good, you know, still going through the clinical trial drug that I'm on for the tumors in my lungs. But you know, I can't I can't spend time worrying about you know, cancer and what's what's going to happen down the road, that's way out of my control. There are not things that some anything that I can control. So I, you know, I've taken my book, and I've really kind of developed a membership program out of it. And I was really sort of hesitant to do it, not because I don't think it's good, but just because I'm like, Oh, do I have the time to do this, but enough people either have heard me on podcasts or have read the book, or have heard me in some way and said, you know, yeah, we want to go deeper. And I'm like, Well, okay, I'll try this and see how it's going. I've just started it. I mean, it's barely 60 days old. So I don't have a lot a lot of data and stuff like that. But but it's exciting. It's a it's a purpose, it's something for me to do that is positive and growing. And that, you know, I don't spend all my time concentrating on my disease.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 3:30 <br class="">Yeah, yeah, I get that. So it's a date of time, and you just got to be obedient to what God has for you and, and let the chips fall where they may.<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 3:38 <br class="">Yeah, exactly. I mean, you and I were talking, you know, before we started recording, you know, and I told you the story about my oncologist showing me my cat scan. And, you know, I had that fluid all around my lungs and tumors inside my lungs. And I looked at him and said, you know, how is he alive? And, you know, he really did, he kind of smiled, and he shook, shook his head, and like, I have no idea what said to me that God's not done with me yet. And you know, when I go, how I go, where I go way above my pay grade, so I don't spend a lot of time worried about it.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 4:09 <br class="">That's great. Well, I worry about things we can't change. Right? That's, that's pretty awesome. Yeah. Well, you know, we're all about natural health here. And the natural nation knows this. But if you're new to the show, it's my contention that we maximize our health potential, when we align our lives more fully with God's natural designed for spirit, mind and body. And what Terry has done is he's really mastered that mental emotional component, and the the fortitude that you show with your mental discipline and the choices you make with the thoughts that you choose to dwell on, really have, I think, assisted you and aided you in your cancer battle. And you know, and I and I love the fact that you're not dwelling on the cancer, you're dwelling on your life mission and your purpose. And and you know, even though you're still struggling with cancer, you are impacting people's lives. Just real quick story, I listened to Episode 23, this morning when I was having breakfast. And I was washing my pan that I cook my eggs in, in on the stainless steel pan and on the bottom of the pan had a lot of grunge and dirt and stuff from the years of buildup. And I'm washing this pin and I said, you know, I'll bet if I just kept scrubbing on the bottom of this pan, I could make this pan look like new again. So there I was scrubbing. And I got through and I was like, wow, it looks like new. And I said, I wonder if that had anything to do with the message I just listened to. With Terry Tucker and I, you're an inspirational guy, and you have that effect on people. So I'd like you to I'd like to give you the platform, Terry and just tell us a little bit about your book. Tell us more about your membership club. And really the mission that God has you on to inspire people to live the life that they were designed for and become all the men and women they were destined to be?<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 5:58 <br class="">Sure. So the book is called Sustainable excellence, the 10 principles to leaving your uncommon and extraordinary life. It was really a book Born out of two conversations. I had one i One of my jobs in sort of a previous life was I was a high school girls basketball coach, we lived in Texas, and I had a player that moved to Colorado now where my wife and I live with her fiance. And the four of us had dinner one night, and I remember saying to her after dinner that I was excited that she was living close, and I could watch her find and live her purpose. And she got real quiet for a while. And then she looked at me and said, well, Coach, what do you think my purpose is, I said, I have no idea what your purpose is. But that's what your life should be about finding the reason you were put on this earth using your unique gifts and talents and living that reason. So that was one conversation. And then I had a young man in college who reached out to me on social media and asked me what I thought were the most important things that he should learn not to just be successful in this job or in business, but to be successful in life. And I didn't want to give him the you know, get up early, work hard help others not that that those aren't important, they are incredibly important. But I wanted to see if I could maybe go a little bit deeper with them. So I took some time and I, you know, had some ideas, some some thoughts. And eventually I had these 10 principles. And so I sent them to him. And then I kind of stepped back and I was like, you know, I've got a life story that fits underneath this principle, or I know somebody whose life emulates that principle. So literally in 2020, I had my leg amputated because of my my cancer. And I had a three month window where I was healing. And so every day while I was healing, I would sit down at the computer and I would build stories and they're they're real stories about real people underneath each of the principles. And that's how the book came to be. And so that was a little over two years ago. And like I said, people have been reaching out, it's like, look, we you know, we'd like to take these principles and go deeper with them and things like that. So I'm working with another individual out of Texas, to put this membership program together, which basically takes each of the chapters in the book, because each of the principles are a chapter in the book and dives deeper into them and gives people you know, here's what you can do to you know, not think with your fears and your insecurities. But you know, to use your your your brain, your mind to do the things you know you're supposed to do, even though you know you're scared. And so it gives more practical information about the stories and how you can utilize utilize those in your life.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 8:42 <br class="">Excellent. Well, you know, when when Terry says I want the natural nation to know that when Terry says he's met people and he's had some life experience, he's had some life experience. He's been a division one NCAA college basketball player, he was a citadel cadet, he was a marketing executive for Wendy's. He was a hospital administrator. He was a SWAT team negotiator and a policeman. And as you just mentioned, a high school basketball coach. So you've got some life experience behind you and, and I can't help but believe that, that all that life experience the the people that you've come in contact with, have shaped who you are today. And you have a I don't want to say too strongly but a burning desire to to inspire other people through your life. And, and, and go ahead.<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 9:29 <br class="">No, I agree. And I think that goes back to, you know, my parents. My story is not a one where it's not one where you know, my dad beat me and was an alcoholic, that we had a great family. My mom and dad, we I have two brothers. You know, I'm six foot eight. I've got a brother who's six foot seven who pitched for the University of Notre Dame. I have another brother who's six foot six who was drafted by the Cleveland Cavaliers and the National Basketball Association. And then my dad was six five, so I sort of joke that if he's happy And our family and church growing up, there wasn't a prayers chance we were gonna say anything that was going on with us. But it was it was my mom and dad that really ingrained that those family values, you know that you love each other, you care about each other, you support each other through whatever you're going through. And, you know, I remember when I graduated from college, my dad was dying of cancer and, and my youngest brother was in high school. And I remember one night I said to my dad said, you know, my brother's got a game basketball game, and I'm not gonna go to the game, I'm gonna go work out. And my dad was like, No, you're not. What What do you mean? No, I'm not, I'm a man, I have my own job. What do you mean, I'm not going to get? And I said, I'm gonna go work out my dad's like, No, you're not. And so we had this kind of back and forth. And it was just, it was just bravado on my part, I wanted to sort of, you know, have my my dominance, my independence, and, and my dad said, you know, your brother needs you right now, your brother needs your support at that game. And my dad was absolutely right, I ended up working out and another time, but it was it was that, you know, we care about each other, we love each other, we support each other. And we're always there for each other, and even to this day, and my dad's been dead for almost 40 years. And, and my brothers were just here the other day. And we are the kind of family where if you say pass a roll at the dinner table, you better have some good hands, because a roll may come flying at you, you know, and you need to catch it, you know, kind of thing. That's just kind of the way our family was, and they were here for three days, we did not leave the house, we just laughed about stories of us growing up. So it was just an amazing time.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 11:36 <br class="">That's awesome. That's really good. You know, on your website, you've got four truths that you use to guide your decision making. And one is control your mind your will control you. Could you speak to that for a little bit?<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 11:50 <br class="">Sure. So I learned that fairly early on in life, when I was in high school, I had three knee surgeries. And when I went back playing, I remember my brain was putting all these negative thoughts into my mind, you know, things like, Hey, you're probably a step slower, since the surgeries and coaches aren't going to be interested in recruiting you. And I remember thinking, Wait a minute, I'm still playing at an elite level. And coaches are still reaching out about the possibility of playing for their college or university, I learned that I needed to change the narrative that was going on in my mind. And people always ask me, you know, if I'm a glass half empty person, how do I become a glass half full person. And I always tell them, it's not an overnight thing. It's not like you just wake up tomorrow. And hey, you know, I see everything differently. We're human beings, we're going to experience negative thinking, the Cleveland Clinic estimates that we have anywhere between 60 and 70,000 thoughts that pass through our mind, and on any single day, most of which we don't even pay attention to. But if your brain can only hold one thought at a time, and it can, why would you want to make that a negative thought. So I always tell people, you know, understand that negative thoughts are going to be there, don't beat yourself up over it, take those negative thoughts and flip them into something more positive. And over time, your brain then will start to expect more of the positive instead of the negative, and it's not going to happen overnight. So don't feel like you know, oh, gosh, you know, I'm a terrible person, because I can't flip the switch on this, it's going to happen gradually over time, you are negative all along, you can't just flip the switch and say, Now I'm positive and expect your brain to go along with that your brain knows your fears, it knows your vulnerabilities, and it will use those against you if you let it so you need to control what those thoughts are.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 13:44 <br class="">Yeah, you know, the scripture that's coming to mind is Second Corinthians 10. Five, we're to take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. So in other words, you know, Christ wants what's best for us. Right? So we need to ask ourselves this thought that I'm having right now. Is it serving my purpose? Is it serving my dreams and goals and aspirations? Is it helping me become more excellent? Or is it working? The opposite? Is it a ball and chain for me? And you know, I think it's worth taking a little time reflecting on some of that, because sometimes these thoughts are have been there for so long, rooted in beliefs that are based in falsehoods, that if feels normal to us, this is just the way we approach life. And sometimes, we need to step back and do a little reflection and say, Wait a minute, is this thought that I'm having this belief that I'm holding? Is it based in truth and is it serving me? Because we're not supposed to be masters to those thoughts? We're supposed to be the master of our thoughts. Exactly. That's a good word.<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 14:42 <br class="">It really is. And you know, and I remember when I was growing up, Bobby Knight was the basketball coach at Indiana University. And Knight used to have a saying that went like this mental is to physical as for is to one so here's this great coach, you know, teaching elite athletes to use their body He's to be excellent basketball players. But what he was really saying with that quote is that your your mind or your mind set is four times more important than, than anything your physical body's going to do. And I remember when I was growing up playing basketball, I remember reading about a coach who wanted to improve his team's free throw shooting percentage, but he wasn't sure how to go about it. So he took half the team. And after practice, that team, that part of the team shot 50, free throws, and the other half of the team just sat on the sidelines, and close their eyes and saw themselves shooting free throws. At the end of the season, the players that were better free throw shooters were not the ones that practiced every day, they're the ones that saw themselves practicing every day, because in your mind, you never missed and the same part of your mind where you say you want to improve your free throws, you're doing free throw for free throw out for free throw the same part of your mind that lights up, when that occurs when your brain is making those connections is the same part of your mind that lights up when you think about making those connections. So you know, the old saying, have, we all become what we think that is so true. And that's why even more, you have to control your mind. Because if you keep telling yourself this negative prophecy over and over and over, eventually your mind is going to ingrain that and it's gonna be almost impossible to overcome that.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 16:25 <br class="">That's exactly right. You know, I share a couple of ways to deal with some of this in my book, The Christians guide to Holistic Health. And there was a study where just as your coach did with the basketball players took half the people and actually put them in a gym, and they worked out I think was three times a week. And they put them on a diet to lose weight, and then took the control group, and they didn't go to the gym, or they didn't change the diet. But they imagined they were at the gym working out. And they imagined that they were losing weight. And the people that just imagined things in their minds, had about 80% of the results of the people that actually went to the gym and went on a diet. Wow. So it was it was a pretty amazing study how that mind body connection, you know, the Bible says, As a man thinks in his heart. So is he, there's a connection there. You know, another illustration I'd like to point out is, if you had a pebble in your shoe, and I made you walk around with that pebble in your shoe all day long, would that affect your mood at the end of the day? Absolutely, absolutely. Right. So there's a connection there. And we've got to be, you know, be more cognizant of it and say, Wait a minute, these these thoughts that I'm having will have will impact me physically, that connection goes both ways. You know, we've all seen we've all seen golfers in a PGA tournament, you know, seven strokes ahead going in a lot of final round. And then on the back nine, they fall to pieces, right? They have four days of unbelievable golf. And then the pressure gets the best of them and they fall apart. Triple bogeys, and they end they end up in third or fourth place. So there is a mind body connection there. And we would do well, to pay attention to it. It sounds like again, Terry. you're the guru in this. You've done this very, very well.<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 18:12 <br class="">I try. I remember when I was, I'm really going to date myself. Now, David. So you know, work with me here. Back in 1976. I was 16 years old, there was a US Olympic swimmer by the name of Shirley Babish shot who had an unbelievable quote, and it went like this. Winners think about what they want to happen. Losers think about what they don't want to happen. And I think that's just you know, winners can override their negative brains and focus on the things that they want to occur, whereas losers can't see the value of pursuing a goal or a dream, because they get caught up in all the negativity that's going on in their mind.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 18:52 <br class="">Wow. Wow, powerful. Good stuff here, Terry. Okay, the second truth, embrace the pain and discomfort we all experience in life and use it to make us stronger and more determined individual. Could you speak to that a little?<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 19:07 <br class="">Sure. I mean, we're, we're all going to experience pain in our lives. And it doesn't have to be you know, cancer, pain or even any kind of an illness. I mean, it can be as simple as your breakup with your boyfriend or your girlfriend or you know, you have a fender bender on the way to church or somebody at the office gets the promotion that you deserve. Pain in our lives is inevitable suffering. On the other hand, sufferings optional sufferings, what you do with that pain, do you take it and use it to make you a stronger and more resilient individual? Or do you wallow in it and feel sorry for yourself and want other people to feel sorry for you? I mean, it's it's human nature. It's a defense mechanism that anytime we want to grow anytime we want to get out of the status quo. Our brains are going to fight us on that because as I said, our brains know our fears. They know our vulnerabilities and they know our weaknesses. and they will use those against us. Anytime we want to do something sort of out of the ordinary, you know, David, if you woke up, woke up this morning, say, Hey, I'm gonna go skydiving, your brain would start saying, Oh no, David, I don't think you want to do that the plane might crash or your parachute might not open or I mean, it puts all the negative stuff into your brain. And when I was coaching basketball used to constantly remind my players that they needed to become comfortable with being uncomfortable, because in that state of uncomfortable, this is where we grow. It's the only way we grow. If we're doing the same thing over and over and over again. Then it's easy, it's comfortable, and everybody's doing it. And we're not growing. And it's sort of that Shawshank Redemption movie, quote where they say, you know, get busy living or get busy dying. Well, I I'm in the get busy living part of you know, part of life. Like I said, death will take care of itself. But the take pain, and instead of running from it, flip it inside of you burn it as fuel, use it as energy to make you a stronger and more resilient individual.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 21:10 <br class="">Excellent. I'm thinking of the quote from the movie Braveheart. All men die. But few men really live. That's a great quote. Kind of Yeah, it's It's powerful. It's good stuff. So the third one, the third truth is, what you leave behind is what you weave in the hearts of other people. Could you speak to that, please?<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 21:31 <br class="">Yeah, that's more of, I guess, for lack of a better word, a legacy kind of truth. I mean, I think it's important for all of us, regardless of what stage in life we're in whether, you know, we're just starting out, we're kind of middle aged, or they're coming to the end of the road, to think about the end game of our lives. What will people say about you at your funeral? What do you want people to say about you at your funeral. I mean, I have friends that still read the obituary page, either in the newspaper or online every day for two reasons. One, to keep themselves humble. And to to remind themselves that someday, somebody's going to be reading their obituary as well. I remember when I had my leg amputated, and I found out I had the tumors in my lungs. I went with my wife to the mortuary into the cemetery into the church. And I planned my funeral. And because I come on these podcasts, and I do speaking engagements, where I talk about motivation and the need to keep moving forward, I actually got some brush back from people who commented that somehow planning my funeral was in some way defeatist, and I kind of had to remind those people that the last time I checked, we're all going to die. I don't think anybody's working on a cure for life. And I'll go back to your Braveheart, quote, every one of us is going to die. But not every one of us is really going to live. And I heard a Native American Blackfoot proverb years ago that I absolutely love. And it goes like this. When you were born, you cried, and the world rejoiced. Live your life in such a way so that when you die, the world cries, and you rejoice. That's what I want that's what<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 23:15 <br class="">I got chills. That is, ah, my hair. My arms is standing up for that one. That was That is powerful. Yeah. Well, that's good stuff. So along those lines, so that leads us into the Truth Number four, as long as you don't quit, you can never be defeated.<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 23:33 <br class="">Yeah, I mean, that to me, I think is pretty self explanatory. But the way that resonates with me is this. Someday my pain is going to end you know, may end through surgery, it man through some type of new medication, quite frankly, it man when I die. But if I quit, if I give up, if I give into pain, then pain will always be a part of my life.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 24:00 <br class="">Wow, good stuff. Good stuff. Yeah, you know, I think what the point you made a moment ago about everybody dies. And I we don't like to think about that. It's an unpleasant thought. But you know, I think God will use the death of some loved ones, or some people that we know, maybe even a celebrity from time to time that those deaths really touch people. And it serves as a reminder of our own mortality. And you know, maybe it's time to do business with God may maybe it's time to get right with God and enter into that personal relationship with Him, so that you can inherit eternal life, you know, so that's where that's where real life starts. You know, we're all born but our real life starts when we enter into that, that lordship relationship with Jesus Christ and make him our Savior and Lord of our lives and we surrender to His great love and goodness. And when we do that, that's when we're capable of finding our purpose and, and living out our calling and making a difference in the world and having people say we're gone, he he or she will be missed. Yeah, the world has lost something now that this person has left. You know, that's, that's a great way of waking up the morning and saying, all right, I might. And I love that what you just said a moment ago, too is pain is inevitable suffering is optional. That's it.<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 25:32 <br class="">And you know, every morning when I wake up, and many times throughout the day, I utter one phrase, and it's this, Lord Jesus, I surrender myself to you take care of everything. It's like, I can't I can't deal with this. I mean, this 10-year cancer battle has not been me. There's there's no way and, and that's the problem. You know, when people start down the road to a goal or something like that, and then they they butt up against an obstacle, something gets in their way, and they quit. But we don't just quit. Now, we gotta blame somebody, you know. And I remember when I got cancer, and people found out I had a faith life. They were like, Well, who do you blame? Because you're a cancer? Like, what do you what do you mean? Who do I blame? Like, I don't blame anybody. What you must blame your mom or dad, or you know, and I don't I've had all my genes tested. I have no mutations in any of my genes for any cancer at all. But what they say to me then is, well, you must blame God. And I sort of joke, I'm like, No, I don't think God got up on a Tuesday morning, checked his to do list and said, Hey, Terry Tucker cancer today. I don't think that's at all. But what I do believe, is God has given me the strength to get through all the garbage that I've had to go through for the last 10 years.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 26:49 <br class="">Yeah, well, you know, that speaks to the idea of personal responsibility. And, you know, I hear similar criticism, to to my message, I got this when I was writing the book. And I hear it from time to time, even today. And that is, well, you know, Dave, you know, we can we can do all we want, but God is sovereign. And you know, some people are destined to have cancer and die of heart disease. And, you know, and I say, well, we live in a sinful, fallen world, and ultimately, that's the source of all sickness and disease. But let's not let our poor choices, take us out sooner than we're supposed to be, you know, I say, you know, again, submit our lives to God align our lives more fully with his natural design for spirit, mind and body. There's a lot there. But when we do that, we put ourselves in a position to receive blessings. You know, there's a lot of if then is in the Bible, you know, it's kind of a computer term where you know, they call it an if then programming. If this event happens, then do this. Well, there's a lot of the if thens in the Bible in for instance, in Deuteronomy 28, 28 If you do this, if you obey these commandments on a given day, then I will bless you, and I'll make you you know, great among nations. But if you choose not to, then you're going to suffer from the curse, which is just the the natural default outcome to poor choices. So you know, if we're really going to surrender ourselves, we've got to try to do it as completely and thoroughly as we can, and not let any of our poor choices, hinder our health and prevent us from living the abundant life that Christ had for us, you know, in John 10:10, Kennedy might have life and have it abundantly, didn't say it kind of forgive them. And a story. He said, I came to give you life, L I F, E, in all its fullness. But the only way we're going to live that life is to understand that God knows best. He's not he's, we're not even on the same level of our understanding as God is how arrogant it is to think that we are, right. He's the one that spoke the galaxies into existence, he knows the future. If He tells us to do something, it's for our benefit, He tells us to avoid something, it's for our protection. He's kind of like our guide on a jungle safari. You know, he knows the way our guide would know where the wild animals hang out where the cliffs are, you know, any anything, they just snakes, whatever, we do well to stick close to our guide. And the same is true in life, we do well to stick close to God, our heavenly Father, and and put ourselves in a position to receive blessings and not experience painful or, you know, suffering as a result of our poor choices. So anyway, well, a little bit of a rant there,<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 29:44 <br class="">but it's good. You're absolutely right. You know, I always look at it, because people always I don't know how. So, you know, when I was people were suggesting to write the book. And I was really saying, No, I don't want to write but there's sort of that old joke that says, you know, when we talk to God, it's called prayer. When God talks to us, it's called schizophrenia. So, you know, the people who, you know, have insight, you know, they're waiting for God to say something. And I think what God has done for me in my life has, has been okay, he starts putting people in your life to start making the same suggestion, Terry, how to write a book tell you how to write a book tell you how to write a book. Now, I think I'm smart enough to sort of when that happens, sort of buck up and say, Oh, maybe I need to pay attention to this. But I think that's where free choice or free will comes in, you know, God's saying, hey, Terry, I want you to write a book. But it's your choice. You don't want to write the book, just like you were talking about in Deuteronomy. If you don't want to do this, then here's gonna be the consequences of this. But it's still our choice as to whether or not we want to listen to what God's telling us, or we want to go off and do our own thing, because we think we know better. And I think there are a lot of people, David, and I think you would agree with me that you know, that it's all about me, you know, I know everything. And I always tell people, yeah, you're unique. But I got news for you. You're not special. You know, you have unique gifts and talents given to you by God, use those for His glory. But you know, this whole thing, it's all about me. It's not about you, you don't have all the answers. He does.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 31:19 <br class="">Right, right. Well, you know, God gave us free will, because love cannot be taken. It cannot be coerced, it needs to be given out of out of our freewill. And that's why God preserves that. And you know, sometimes God says to us, Look, I'm telling you that choice, you're not going to like the outcome. But you're still free to choose, right? It's, it's up to you, He preserves that. So he might and sometimes he'll, he'll spare us from, you know, we, we can receive forgiveness for our sins past, present, and future. But often, and I would say more often than not, God does not spare us from the consequences of our sin of our poor choices. He occasionally does, you know, but not all the time. And there's a consequence sometimes waiting for us. It's not not not that we're not going to like so yeah, it's personal responsibility is has a lot lot to do with this, this whole message of natural health matters and your message as well. And that is, you know, walking in your calling and doing what, what you were put on this earth to do. So, another thing that I want to just, you kind of mentioned this, but you say this on your website, as well. I came to the understanding the responsibility for altering your life is entirely up to you whining, complaining or blaming others for your plight will not enhance your experience. Do you have anything to add to that?<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 32:41 <br class="">Yeah, you know, everybody talks about motivation, you know, and I even named my, you know, my blog, motivational check. But motivation's, not enough, you need two more things with that go along with that. One is discipline, and two is good habits, you can have all the motivation in the world. But if you're in McDonald's for, you know, three days a week, it doesn't matter how much weight you want to lose, or how much shape you know how much better your shape you want to get in or you know how much you want to decrease your blood pressure, it's not going to happen if your habits are bad. And if you don't have the discipline, you know, the motivation is kind of like, lighten the fuse, you know, okay, I feel like this is something I need to do. I lit the fuse, now the fuse is burning. The discipline is what you do to say, You know what, I've got to eat better every morning, I've got to exercise, I've got to meditate. I've got to, you know, pray, I've got whatever it is that you believe you need to do. That's the discipline to continue to do that. And that discipline couples with having the good habits, like you said, what you if you and I were talking about breakfast this morning, you know, you had eggs as opposed to Froot Loops, you know, probably a little bit better choice. So motive, excuse me motivation, with discipline, with good habits, pretty much will lead you to success and whatever you want to do in life.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 34:05 <br class="">Yeah, very good. I have a I have another question that I'd like to ask you. And I think someone in the audience probably thinking the same thing right now. And that is, well, you know, this guy, Terry Tucker, He's great. He's, he's strong. He's he's really not discipline. You know, I just don't have that. I don't have the kind of mental fortitude that he has is great for him. I'm glad. I'm glad it's working for him. But that's not average. And I'm certainly not one of those people. What would you say to that person is thinking those thoughts.<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 34:33 <br class="">I would say I am the biggest wimp in the world. If I can do this, you can do this. And this is an absolute true story when I was a kid, and I knew when my mom was taking me to the pediatrician for a vaccine, I would wait till she got out of the car and then I'd lock all the doors from the inside. She would literally have to go in and this was before key fobs were available, you know, so you had to have a key to unlock the door. She would have to go in and get the pediatrician and his nurse and it was little Literally a cat and mouse game of getting me out of the car. Because I was so scared. I was so afraid of just getting a simple injection a simple shot. That was it. So if I can do this being the biggest wimp in the world, you can absolutely, absolutely do it. And I will tell you one way to do this, and I learned this through playing team sports, I think one of the things that team sports taught me was the importance of being part of something that's bigger than yourself, you realize on a team that if you don't do your job, not only do you let yourself down, but you let your teammates down your coaches down and your fans down. And if you think about it, the biggest team game we all play is this game of life. So whenever people are like, you know, I could never do that. Well, first of all, you're right, because you've already decided in your mind, you can't do it. So you got to change that narrative into something, I can do this. It's not going to be easy. It's not easy for me. I just don't wake up. And you know, I mean, David, you're looking at me right now. There's no S on my chest. I don't wear a cape. So you know, I do I do not have special power. I am a human being I get down, I cry I have those bad days, Don't think I don't I do. I had them last week, I can promise you that. But use what you have, you can do this. Just take it a day at a time. And I'll leave you with this story. When I was in college, I went to a military college I mentioned the Citadel in Charleston, South Carolina. And one year the president of the college was a man by the name of James Stockdale. And Stockdale was a Medal of Honor winner, he was the highest ranking prisoner of war at the Hanoi Hilton it during the Vietnam War. And I remember having an opportunity, I didn't interact with him very much. But I did have some opportunities to interact with him. And somebody asked him once, you know, what was the difference between the guys that made it out alive from that horrible prison, and the guys that did it. And he had an interesting comment about it, he said, the you know, the biggest, the toughest, the strongest guys are the ones that usually died in the prison, because they had this, you know, I can control stuff, I can control how I'm going to be beaten, I can control how I'm going to be isolated, I can control you can't, the things he said the people that survive that were the people that could control the things that they were able to control. And in many cases, that was their thoughts, and their breathing. That's the only thing they had control over. And if you think about that, you know, we all want to say we're big, we're torment. We're strong, we're tough. I like to think that too. And at one point in my life I was, but I still couldn't do that by myself. So again, it kind of I guess we're gonna bring this full circle Dave with, you know, it's it goes back to your mind, what can you control in life, I can control my breathing, I can control my thoughts, I can control how I treat other people. Pretty much everything else is outside of our bailiwick, we can't, you know, they have no control. So stop with all your stress, stop with all your anxiety, worrying about control officer, you can't let it happen. Pray like David and I do every single day, pray believe it's going to happen,<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 38:12 <br class="">and God will give it to him. Absolutely. That's a great word. Terry, thank you for that, and probably a great place to end right there. So if someone wants to be a part of your membership club, pick up your book, learn more about you, what's the best way to get a hold of you?<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 38:26 <br class="">So I mentioned I have a blog called motivational check. It's motivationacheck.com, I put up a thought for the day with that thought comes a question about maybe how you could apply that thought into your life, you can leave me a message there, you can get access to my social media links. You can even buy my book there, you can pretty much buy sustainable excellence, online anywhere you can get a book online, but you can also download a copy for free at sustainable excellencemembership.com. And it also gives you more information about the membership. And you can also schedule a 15 minute call with me and we can talk about if it's something that you think you would benefit from.<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 39:06 <br class="">Excellent. That sounds great. Alright, Terry, thank you again, for your time. It was it was a real blessing to talk with you again.<br class=""><br class="">Terry Tucker 39:13 <br class="">Mutual. David, thanks very much. You know, I always say it's, it's nice people like you that allow me to come on and have a conversation with them. And, you know, hopefully that conversation makes a difference in somebody's life. And if it does, today's been a good<br class=""><br class="">David Sandstrom 39:25 <br class="">day. I believe it will. Thanks again, thank you. For more, go to the show notes page at davidsandstrom.com/96. There you can find an audio as well as a video version of the podcast. I also put links to all the resources that we mentioned, as well as a full downloadable transcript. If you're enjoying the show, would you tell somebody about it? The number one way people find out about a podcast is that a friend tells them this information is hard to come by. So if you have a like minded friend, they might enjoy listening to the podcast as well and I believe they'll thank you for it. Thanks again for listening. I'll talk with you next week be blessed.<br class=""><br class=""><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 0:00&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">And I remember when I was growing up playing basketball, I remember reading about a coach who wanted to improve his team's free throw shooting percentage, but he wasn't sure how to go about it. So he took half the team. And after practice that team, that part of the team shot 50 free throws, and the other half of the team just sat on the sidelines and close their eyes and saw themselves shooting free throws. At the end of the season. The players that were better free throw shooters were not the ones that practiced every day. They're the ones that saw themselves practicing every day, because in your mind you never missed and the same part of your mind where you say you want to improve your free throws, you're doing free throw out for free throw out for free throw the same part of your mind that lights up when that occurs when your brain is making those connections is the same part of your mind that lights up when you think about making those connections.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 0:55&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Welcome to the Natural Health Matters podcast where it's all about maximizing your health potential, so that you can look and feel your best at any age. I'm your host, David Sandstrom, Naturopathic Doctor and Biblical Health Coach, and this is episode number 96.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 1:14&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Today, we have in the show, Terry Tucker, Terry is a personal development and mindset expert. His mission is to motivate, inspire, and help people live their extraordinary purpose. His book is called Sustainable Excellence 10 principles to lead in your uncommon and extraordinary life. Terry, welcome back to Natural Health Matters.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 1:34&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Thanks a lot, David. I'm really looking forward to talking with you again.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 1:38&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Absolutely. Well, you're my first repeat guest. And with with nearly 100 episodes in having you back, I think speaks volumes to the power of your message. I think you were on Show episode number 23. Back when the show was called holistic health matters. And it's one of the most widely downloaded episodes that I've done. And I've gotten a lot of comments on it on how really inspiring your message is. So I heard you on another podcast, and I said, you know, I think it's time to invite Terry back on so welcome back. Well, thank you,</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 2:11&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">thank you very much. You keep saying that my head's gonna get bigger, bigger lobby.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 2:17&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">It's all true it's all true. So, anyway. So how you been? What have you been up to over the last 18 months? Or whatever it's been?</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 2:25&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Yeah, I have, I've been good, you know, still going through the clinical trial drug that I'm on for the tumors in my lungs. But you know, I can't I can't spend time worrying about you know, cancer and what's what's going to happen down the road, that's way out of my control. There are not things that some anything that I can control. So I, you know, I've taken my book, and I've really kind of developed a membership program out of it. And I was really sort of hesitant to do it, not because I don't think it's good, but just because I'm like, Oh, do I have the time to do this, but enough people either have heard me on podcasts or have read the book, or have heard me in some way and said, you know, yeah, we want to go deeper. And I'm like, Well, okay, I'll try this and see how it's going. I've just started it. I mean, it's barely 60 days old. So I don't have a lot a lot of data and stuff like that. But but it's exciting. It's a it's a purpose, it's something for me to do that is positive and growing. And that, you know, I don't spend all my time concentrating on my disease.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 3:30&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Yeah, yeah, I get that. So it's a date of time, and you just got to be obedient to what God has for you and, and let the chips fall where they may.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 3:38&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Yeah, exactly. I mean, you and I were talking, you know, before we started recording, you know, and I told you the story about my oncologist showing me my cat scan. And, you know, I had that fluid all around my lungs and tumors inside my lungs. And I looked at him and said, you know, how is he alive? And, you know, he really did, he kind of smiled, and he shook, shook his head, and like, I have no idea what said to me that God's not done with me yet. And you know, when I go, how I go, where I go way above my pay grade, so I don't spend a lot of time worried about it.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 4:09&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">That's great. Well, I worry about things we can't change. Right? That's, that's pretty awesome. Yeah. Well, you know, we're all about natural health here. And the natural nation knows this. But if you're new to the show, it's my contention that we maximize our health potential, when we align our lives more fully with God's natural designed for spirit, mind and body. And what Terry has done is he's really mastered that mental emotional component, and the the fortitude that you show with your mental discipline and the choices you make with the thoughts that you choose to dwell on, really have, I think, assisted you and aided you in your cancer battle. And you know, and I and I love the fact that you're not dwelling on the cancer, you're dwelling on your life mission and your purpose. And and you know, even though you're still struggling with cancer, you are impacting people's lives. Just real quick story, I listened to Episode 23, this morning when I was having breakfast. And I was washing my pan that I cook my eggs in, in on the stainless steel pan and on the bottom of the pan had a lot of grunge and dirt and stuff from the years of buildup. And I'm washing this pin and I said, you know, I'll bet if I just kept scrubbing on the bottom of this pan, I could make this pan look like new again. So there I was scrubbing. And I got through and I was like, wow, it looks like new. And I said, I wonder if that had anything to do with the message I just listened to. With Terry Tucker and I, you're an inspirational guy, and you have that effect on people. So I'd like you to I'd like to give you the platform, Terry and just tell us a little bit about your book. Tell us more about your membership club. And really the mission that God has you on to inspire people to live the life that they were designed for and become all the men and women they were destined to be?</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 5:58&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Sure. So the book is called Sustainable excellence, the 10 principles to leaving your uncommon and extraordinary life. It was really a book Born out of two conversations. I had one i One of my jobs in sort of a previous life was I was a high school girls basketball coach, we lived in Texas, and I had a player that moved to Colorado now where my wife and I live with her fiance. And the four of us had dinner one night, and I remember saying to her after dinner that I was excited that she was living close, and I could watch her find and live her purpose. And she got real quiet for a while. And then she looked at me and said, well, Coach, what do you think my purpose is, I said, I have no idea what your purpose is. But that's what your life should be about finding the reason you were put on this earth using your unique gifts and talents and living that reason. So that was one conversation. And then I had a young man in college who reached out to me on social media and asked me what I thought were the most important things that he should learn not to just be successful in this job or in business, but to be successful in life. And I didn't want to give him the you know, get up early, work hard help others not that that those aren't important, they are incredibly important. But I wanted to see if I could maybe go a little bit deeper with them. So I took some time and I, you know, had some ideas, some some thoughts. And eventually I had these 10 principles. And so I sent them to him. And then I kind of stepped back and I was like, you know, I've got a life story that fits underneath this principle, or I know somebody whose life emulates that principle. So literally in 2020, I had my leg amputated because of my my cancer. And I had a three month window where I was healing. And so every day while I was healing, I would sit down at the computer and I would build stories and they're they're real stories about real people underneath each of the principles. And that's how the book came to be. And so that was a little over two years ago. And like I said, people have been reaching out, it's like, look, we you know, we'd like to take these principles and go deeper with them and things like that. So I'm working with another individual out of Texas, to put this membership program together, which basically takes each of the chapters in the book, because each of the principles are a chapter in the book and dives deeper into them and gives people you know, here's what you can do to you know, not think with your fears and your insecurities. But you know, to use your your your brain, your mind to do the things you know you're supposed to do, even though you know you're scared. And so it gives more practical information about the stories and how you can utilize utilize those in your life.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 8:42&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Excellent. Well, you know, when when Terry says I want the natural nation to know that when Terry says he's met people and he's had some life experience, he's had some life experience. He's been a division one NCAA college basketball player, he was a citadel cadet, he was a marketing executive for Wendy's. He was a hospital administrator. He was a SWAT team negotiator and a policeman. And as you just mentioned, a high school basketball coach. So you've got some life experience behind you and, and I can't help but believe that, that all that life experience the the people that you've come in contact with, have shaped who you are today. And you have a I don't want to say too strongly but a burning desire to to inspire other people through your life. And, and, and go ahead.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 9:29&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">No, I agree. And I think that goes back to, you know, my parents. My story is not a one where it's not one where you know, my dad beat me and was an alcoholic, that we had a great family. My mom and dad, we I have two brothers. You know, I'm six foot eight. I've got a brother who's six foot seven who pitched for the University of Notre Dame. I have another brother who's six foot six who was drafted by the Cleveland Cavaliers and the National Basketball Association. And then my dad was six five, so I sort of joke that if he's happy And our family and church growing up, there wasn't a prayers chance we were gonna say anything that was going on with us. But it was it was my mom and dad that really ingrained that those family values, you know that you love each other, you care about each other, you support each other through whatever you're going through. And, you know, I remember when I graduated from college, my dad was dying of cancer and, and my youngest brother was in high school. And I remember one night I said to my dad said, you know, my brother's got a game basketball game, and I'm not gonna go to the game, I'm gonna go work out. And my dad was like, No, you're not. What What do you mean? No, I'm not, I'm a man, I have my own job. What do you mean, I'm not going to get? And I said, I'm gonna go work out my dad's like, No, you're not. And so we had this kind of back and forth. And it was just, it was just bravado on my part, I wanted to sort of, you know, have my my dominance, my independence, and, and my dad said, you know, your brother needs you right now, your brother needs your support at that game. And my dad was absolutely right, I ended up working out and another time, but it was it was that, you know, we care about each other, we love each other, we support each other. And we're always there for each other, and even to this day, and my dad's been dead for almost 40 years. And, and my brothers were just here the other day. And we are the kind of family where if you say pass a roll at the dinner table, you better have some good hands, because a roll may come flying at you, you know, and you need to catch it, you know, kind of thing. That's just kind of the way our family was, and they were here for three days, we did not leave the house, we just laughed about stories of us growing up. So it was just an amazing time.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 11:36&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">That's awesome. That's really good. You know, on your website, you've got four truths that you use to guide your decision making. And one is control your mind your will control you. Could you speak to that for a little bit?</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 11:50&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Sure. So I learned that fairly early on in life, when I was in high school, I had three knee surgeries. And when I went back playing, I remember my brain was putting all these negative thoughts into my mind, you know, things like, Hey, you're probably a step slower, since the surgeries and coaches aren't going to be interested in recruiting you. And I remember thinking, Wait a minute, I'm still playing at an elite level. And coaches are still reaching out about the possibility of playing for their college or university, I learned that I needed to change the narrative that was going on in my mind. And people always ask me, you know, if I'm a glass half empty person, how do I become a glass half full person. And I always tell them, it's not an overnight thing. It's not like you just wake up tomorrow. And hey, you know, I see everything differently. We're human beings, we're going to experience negative thinking, the Cleveland Clinic estimates that we have anywhere between 60 and 70,000 thoughts that pass through our mind, and on any single day, most of which we don't even pay attention to. But if your brain can only hold one thought at a time, and it can, why would you want to make that a negative thought. So I always tell people, you know, understand that negative thoughts are going to be there, don't beat yourself up over it, take those negative thoughts and flip them into something more positive. And over time, your brain then will start to expect more of the positive instead of the negative, and it's not going to happen overnight. So don't feel like you know, oh, gosh, you know, I'm a terrible person, because I can't flip the switch on this, it's going to happen gradually over time, you are negative all along, you can't just flip the switch and say, Now I'm positive and expect your brain to go along with that your brain knows your fears, it knows your vulnerabilities, and it will use those against you if you let it so you need to control what those thoughts are.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 13:44&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Yeah, you know, the scripture that's coming to mind is Second Corinthians 10. Five, we're to take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. So in other words, you know, Christ wants what's best for us. Right? So we need to ask ourselves this thought that I'm having right now. Is it serving my purpose? Is it serving my dreams and goals and aspirations? Is it helping me become more excellent? Or is it working? The opposite? Is it a ball and chain for me? And you know, I think it's worth taking a little time reflecting on some of that, because sometimes these thoughts are have been there for so long, rooted in beliefs that are based in falsehoods, that if feels normal to us, this is just the way we approach life. And sometimes, we need to step back and do a little reflection and say, Wait a minute, is this thought that I'm having this belief that I'm holding? Is it based in truth and is it serving me? Because we're not supposed to be masters to those thoughts? We're supposed to be the master of our thoughts. Exactly. That's a good word.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 14:42&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">It really is. And you know, and I remember when I was growing up, Bobby Knight was the basketball coach at Indiana University. And Knight used to have a saying that went like this mental is to physical as for is to one so here's this great coach, you know, teaching elite athletes to use their body He's to be excellent basketball players. But what he was really saying with that quote is that your your mind or your mind set is four times more important than, than anything your physical body's going to do. And I remember when I was growing up playing basketball, I remember reading about a coach who wanted to improve his team's free throw shooting percentage, but he wasn't sure how to go about it. So he took half the team. And after practice, that team, that part of the team shot 50, free throws, and the other half of the team just sat on the sidelines, and close their eyes and saw themselves shooting free throws. At the end of the season, the players that were better free throw shooters were not the ones that practiced every day, they're the ones that saw themselves practicing every day, because in your mind, you never missed and the same part of your mind where you say you want to improve your free throws, you're doing free throw for free throw out for free throw the same part of your mind that lights up, when that occurs when your brain is making those connections is the same part of your mind that lights up when you think about making those connections. So you know, the old saying, have, we all become what we think that is so true. And that's why even more, you have to control your mind. Because if you keep telling yourself this negative prophecy over and over and over, eventually your mind is going to ingrain that and it's gonna be almost impossible to overcome that.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 16:25&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">That's exactly right. You know, I share a couple of ways to deal with some of this in my book, The Christians guide to Holistic Health. And there was a study where just as your coach did with the basketball players took half the people and actually put them in a gym, and they worked out I think was three times a week. And they put them on a diet to lose weight, and then took the control group, and they didn't go to the gym, or they didn't change the diet. But they imagined they were at the gym working out. And they imagined that they were losing weight. And the people that just imagined things in their minds, had about 80% of the results of the people that actually went to the gym and went on a diet. Wow. So it was it was a pretty amazing study how that mind body connection, you know, the Bible says, As a man thinks in his heart. So is he, there's a connection there. You know, another illustration I'd like to point out is, if you had a pebble in your shoe, and I made you walk around with that pebble in your shoe all day long, would that affect your mood at the end of the day? Absolutely, absolutely. Right. So there's a connection there. And we've got to be, you know, be more cognizant of it and say, Wait a minute, these these thoughts that I'm having will have will impact me physically, that connection goes both ways. You know, we've all seen we've all seen golfers in a PGA tournament, you know, seven strokes ahead going in a lot of final round. And then on the back nine, they fall to pieces, right? They have four days of unbelievable golf. And then the pressure gets the best of them and they fall apart. Triple bogeys, and they end they end up in third or fourth place. So there is a mind body connection there. And we would do well, to pay attention to it. It sounds like again, Terry. you're the guru in this. You've done this very, very well.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 18:12&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">I try. I remember when I was, I'm really going to date myself. Now, David. So you know, work with me here. Back in 1976. I was 16 years old, there was a US Olympic swimmer by the name of Shirley Babish shot who had an unbelievable quote, and it went like this. Winners think about what they want to happen. Losers think about what they don't want to happen. And I think that's just you know, winners can override their negative brains and focus on the things that they want to occur, whereas losers can't see the value of pursuing a goal or a dream, because they get caught up in all the negativity that's going on in their mind.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 18:52&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Wow. Wow, powerful. Good stuff here, Terry. Okay, the second truth, embrace the pain and discomfort we all experience in life and use it to make us stronger and more determined individual. Could you speak to that a little?</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 19:07&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Sure. I mean, we're, we're all going to experience pain in our lives. And it doesn't have to be you know, cancer, pain or even any kind of an illness. I mean, it can be as simple as your breakup with your boyfriend or your girlfriend or you know, you have a fender bender on the way to church or somebody at the office gets the promotion that you deserve. Pain in our lives is inevitable suffering. On the other hand, sufferings optional sufferings, what you do with that pain, do you take it and use it to make you a stronger and more resilient individual? Or do you wallow in it and feel sorry for yourself and want other people to feel sorry for you? I mean, it's it's human nature. It's a defense mechanism that anytime we want to grow anytime we want to get out of the status quo. Our brains are going to fight us on that because as I said, our brains know our fears. They know our vulnerabilities and they know our weaknesses. and they will use those against us. Anytime we want to do something sort of out of the ordinary, you know, David, if you woke up, woke up this morning, say, Hey, I'm gonna go skydiving, your brain would start saying, Oh no, David, I don't think you want to do that the plane might crash or your parachute might not open or I mean, it puts all the negative stuff into your brain. And when I was coaching basketball used to constantly remind my players that they needed to become comfortable with being uncomfortable, because in that state of uncomfortable, this is where we grow. It's the only way we grow. If we're doing the same thing over and over and over again. Then it's easy, it's comfortable, and everybody's doing it. And we're not growing. And it's sort of that Shawshank Redemption movie, quote where they say, you know, get busy living or get busy dying. Well, I I'm in the get busy living part of you know, part of life. Like I said, death will take care of itself. But the take pain, and instead of running from it, flip it inside of you burn it as fuel, use it as energy to make you a stronger and more resilient individual.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 21:10&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Excellent. I'm thinking of the quote from the movie Braveheart. All men die. But few men really live. That's a great quote. Kind of Yeah, it's It's powerful. It's good stuff. So the third one, the third truth is, what you leave behind is what you weave in the hearts of other people. Could you speak to that, please?</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 21:31&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Yeah, that's more of, I guess, for lack of a better word, a legacy kind of truth. I mean, I think it's important for all of us, regardless of what stage in life we're in whether, you know, we're just starting out, we're kind of middle aged, or they're coming to the end of the road, to think about the end game of our lives. What will people say about you at your funeral? What do you want people to say about you at your funeral. I mean, I have friends that still read the obituary page, either in the newspaper or online every day for two reasons. One, to keep themselves humble. And to to remind themselves that someday, somebody's going to be reading their obituary as well. I remember when I had my leg amputated, and I found out I had the tumors in my lungs. I went with my wife to the mortuary into the cemetery into the church. And I planned my funeral. And because I come on these podcasts, and I do speaking engagements, where I talk about motivation and the need to keep moving forward, I actually got some brush back from people who commented that somehow planning my funeral was in some way defeatist, and I kind of had to remind those people that the last time I checked, we're all going to die. I don't think anybody's working on a cure for life. And I'll go back to your Braveheart, quote, every one of us is going to die. But not every one of us is really going to live. And I heard a Native American Blackfoot proverb years ago that I absolutely love. And it goes like this. When you were born, you cried, and the world rejoiced. Live your life in such a way so that when you die, the world cries, and you rejoice. That's what I want that's what</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 23:15&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">I got chills. That is, ah, my hair. My arms is standing up for that one. That was That is powerful. Yeah. Well, that's good stuff. So along those lines, so that leads us into the Truth Number four, as long as you don't quit, you can never be defeated.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 23:33&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Yeah, I mean, that to me, I think is pretty self explanatory. But the way that resonates with me is this. Someday my pain is going to end you know, may end through surgery, it man through some type of new medication, quite frankly, it man when I die. But if I quit, if I give up, if I give into pain, then pain will always be a part of my life.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 24:00&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Wow, good stuff. Good stuff. Yeah, you know, I think what the point you made a moment ago about everybody dies. And I we don't like to think about that. It's an unpleasant thought. But you know, I think God will use the death of some loved ones, or some people that we know, maybe even a celebrity from time to time that those deaths really touch people. And it serves as a reminder of our own mortality. And you know, maybe it's time to do business with God may maybe it's time to get right with God and enter into that personal relationship with Him, so that you can inherit eternal life, you know, so that's where that's where real life starts. You know, we're all born but our real life starts when we enter into that, that lordship relationship with Jesus Christ and make him our Savior and Lord of our lives and we surrender to His great love and goodness. And when we do that, that's when we're capable of finding our purpose and, and living out our calling and making a difference in the world and having people say we're gone, he he or she will be missed. Yeah, the world has lost something now that this person has left. You know, that's, that's a great way of waking up the morning and saying, all right, I might. And I love that what you just said a moment ago, too is pain is inevitable suffering is optional. That's it.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 25:32&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">And you know, every morning when I wake up, and many times throughout the day, I utter one phrase, and it's this, Lord Jesus, I surrender myself to you take care of everything. It's like, I can't I can't deal with this. I mean, this 10-year cancer battle has not been me. There's there's no way and, and that's the problem. You know, when people start down the road to a goal or something like that, and then they they butt up against an obstacle, something gets in their way, and they quit. But we don't just quit. Now, we gotta blame somebody, you know. And I remember when I got cancer, and people found out I had a faith life. They were like, Well, who do you blame? Because you're a cancer? Like, what do you what do you mean? Who do I blame? Like, I don't blame anybody. What you must blame your mom or dad, or you know, and I don't I've had all my genes tested. I have no mutations in any of my genes for any cancer at all. But what they say to me then is, well, you must blame God. And I sort of joke, I'm like, No, I don't think God got up on a Tuesday morning, checked his to do list and said, Hey, Terry Tucker cancer today. I don't think that's at all. But what I do believe, is God has given me the strength to get through all the garbage that I've had to go through for the last 10 years.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 26:49&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Yeah, well, you know, that speaks to the idea of personal responsibility. And, you know, I hear similar criticism, to to my message, I got this when I was writing the book. And I hear it from time to time, even today. And that is, well, you know, Dave, you know, we can we can do all we want, but God is sovereign. And you know, some people are destined to have cancer and die of heart disease. And, you know, and I say, well, we live in a sinful, fallen world, and ultimately, that's the source of all sickness and disease. But let's not let our poor choices, take us out sooner than we're supposed to be, you know, I say, you know, again, submit our lives to God align our lives more fully with his natural design for spirit, mind and body. There's a lot there. But when we do that, we put ourselves in a position to receive blessings. You know, there's a lot of if then is in the Bible, you know, it's kind of a computer term where you know, they call it an if then programming. If this event happens, then do this. Well, there's a lot of the if thens in the Bible in for instance, in Deuteronomy 28, 28 If you do this, if you obey these commandments on a given day, then I will bless you, and I'll make you you know, great among nations. But if you choose not to, then you're going to suffer from the curse, which is just the the natural default outcome to poor choices. So you know, if we're really going to surrender ourselves, we've got to try to do it as completely and thoroughly as we can, and not let any of our poor choices, hinder our health and prevent us from living the abundant life that Christ had for us, you know, in John 10:10, Kennedy might have life and have it abundantly, didn't say it kind of forgive them. And a story. He said, I came to give you life, L I F, E, in all its fullness. But the only way we're going to live that life is to understand that God knows best. He's not he's, we're not even on the same level of our understanding as God is how arrogant it is to think that we are, right. He's the one that spoke the galaxies into existence, he knows the future. If He tells us to do something, it's for our benefit, He tells us to avoid something, it's for our protection. He's kind of like our guide on a jungle safari. You know, he knows the way our guide would know where the wild animals hang out where the cliffs are, you know, any anything, they just snakes, whatever, we do well to stick close to our guide. And the same is true in life, we do well to stick close to God, our heavenly Father, and and put ourselves in a position to receive blessings and not experience painful or, you know, suffering as a result of our poor choices. So anyway, well, a little bit of a rant there,</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 29:44&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">but it's good. You're absolutely right. You know, I always look at it, because people always I don't know how. So, you know, when I was people were suggesting to write the book. And I was really saying, No, I don't want to write but there's sort of that old joke that says, you know, when we talk to God, it's called prayer. When God talks to us, it's called schizophrenia. So, you know, the people who, you know, have insight, you know, they're waiting for God to say something. And I think what God has done for me in my life has, has been okay, he starts putting people in your life to start making the same suggestion, Terry, how to write a book tell you how to write a book tell you how to write a book. Now, I think I'm smart enough to sort of when that happens, sort of buck up and say, Oh, maybe I need to pay attention to this. But I think that's where free choice or free will comes in, you know, God's saying, hey, Terry, I want you to write a book. But it's your choice. You don't want to write the book, just like you were talking about in Deuteronomy. If you don't want to do this, then here's gonna be the consequences of this. But it's still our choice as to whether or not we want to listen to what God's telling us, or we want to go off and do our own thing, because we think we know better. And I think there are a lot of people, David, and I think you would agree with me that you know, that it's all about me, you know, I know everything. And I always tell people, yeah, you're unique. But I got news for you. You're not special. You know, you have unique gifts and talents given to you by God, use those for His glory. But you know, this whole thing, it's all about me. It's not about you, you don't have all the answers. He does.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 31:19&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Right, right. Well, you know, God gave us free will, because love cannot be taken. It cannot be coerced, it needs to be given out of out of our freewill. And that's why God preserves that. And you know, sometimes God says to us, Look, I'm telling you that choice, you're not going to like the outcome. But you're still free to choose, right? It's, it's up to you, He preserves that. So he might and sometimes he'll, he'll spare us from, you know, we, we can receive forgiveness for our sins past, present, and future. But often, and I would say more often than not, God does not spare us from the consequences of our sin of our poor choices. He occasionally does, you know, but not all the time. And there's a consequence sometimes waiting for us. It's not not not that we're not going to like so yeah, it's personal responsibility is has a lot lot to do with this, this whole message of natural health matters and your message as well. And that is, you know, walking in your calling and doing what, what you were put on this earth to do. So, another thing that I want to just, you kind of mentioned this, but you say this on your website, as well. I came to the understanding the responsibility for altering your life is entirely up to you whining, complaining or blaming others for your plight will not enhance your experience. Do you have anything to add to that?</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 32:41&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Yeah, you know, everybody talks about motivation, you know, and I even named my, you know, my blog, motivational check. But motivation's, not enough, you need two more things with that go along with that. One is discipline, and two is good habits, you can have all the motivation in the world. But if you're in McDonald's for, you know, three days a week, it doesn't matter how much weight you want to lose, or how much shape you know how much better your shape you want to get in or you know how much you want to decrease your blood pressure, it's not going to happen if your habits are bad. And if you don't have the discipline, you know, the motivation is kind of like, lighten the fuse, you know, okay, I feel like this is something I need to do. I lit the fuse, now the fuse is burning. The discipline is what you do to say, You know what, I've got to eat better every morning, I've got to exercise, I've got to meditate. I've got to, you know, pray, I've got whatever it is that you believe you need to do. That's the discipline to continue to do that. And that discipline couples with having the good habits, like you said, what you if you and I were talking about breakfast this morning, you know, you had eggs as opposed to Froot Loops, you know, probably a little bit better choice. So motive, excuse me motivation, with discipline, with good habits, pretty much will lead you to success and whatever you want to do in life.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 34:05&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Yeah, very good. I have a I have another question that I'd like to ask you. And I think someone in the audience probably thinking the same thing right now. And that is, well, you know, this guy, Terry Tucker, He's great. He's, he's strong. He's he's really not discipline. You know, I just don't have that. I don't have the kind of mental fortitude that he has is great for him. I'm glad. I'm glad it's working for him. But that's not average. And I'm certainly not one of those people. What would you say to that person is thinking those thoughts.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 34:33&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">I would say I am the biggest wimp in the world. If I can do this, you can do this. And this is an absolute true story when I was a kid, and I knew when my mom was taking me to the pediatrician for a vaccine, I would wait till she got out of the car and then I'd lock all the doors from the inside. She would literally have to go in and this was before key fobs were available, you know, so you had to have a key to unlock the door. She would have to go in and get the pediatrician and his nurse and it was little Literally a cat and mouse game of getting me out of the car. Because I was so scared. I was so afraid of just getting a simple injection a simple shot. That was it. So if I can do this being the biggest wimp in the world, you can absolutely, absolutely do it. And I will tell you one way to do this, and I learned this through playing team sports, I think one of the things that team sports taught me was the importance of being part of something that's bigger than yourself, you realize on a team that if you don't do your job, not only do you let yourself down, but you let your teammates down your coaches down and your fans down. And if you think about it, the biggest team game we all play is this game of life. So whenever people are like, you know, I could never do that. Well, first of all, you're right, because you've already decided in your mind, you can't do it. So you got to change that narrative into something, I can do this. It's not going to be easy. It's not easy for me. I just don't wake up. And you know, I mean, David, you're looking at me right now. There's no S on my chest. I don't wear a cape. So you know, I do I do not have special power. I am a human being I get down, I cry I have those bad days, Don't think I don't I do. I had them last week, I can promise you that. But use what you have, you can do this. Just take it a day at a time. And I'll leave you with this story. When I was in college, I went to a military college I mentioned the Citadel in Charleston, South Carolina. And one year the president of the college was a man by the name of James Stockdale. And Stockdale was a Medal of Honor winner, he was the highest ranking prisoner of war at the Hanoi Hilton it during the Vietnam War. And I remember having an opportunity, I didn't interact with him very much. But I did have some opportunities to interact with him. And somebody asked him once, you know, what was the difference between the guys that made it out alive from that horrible prison, and the guys that did it. And he had an interesting comment about it, he said, the you know, the biggest, the toughest, the strongest guys are the ones that usually died in the prison, because they had this, you know, I can control stuff, I can control how I'm going to be beaten, I can control how I'm going to be isolated, I can control you can't, the things he said the people that survive that were the people that could control the things that they were able to control. And in many cases, that was their thoughts, and their breathing. That's the only thing they had control over. And if you think about that, you know, we all want to say we're big, we're torment. We're strong, we're tough. I like to think that too. And at one point in my life I was, but I still couldn't do that by myself. So again, it kind of I guess we're gonna bring this full circle Dave with, you know, it's it goes back to your mind, what can you control in life, I can control my breathing, I can control my thoughts, I can control how I treat other people. Pretty much everything else is outside of our bailiwick, we can't, you know, they have no control. So stop with all your stress, stop with all your anxiety, worrying about control officer, you can't let it happen. Pray like David and I do every single day, pray believe it's going to happen,</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 38:12&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">and God will give it to him. Absolutely. That's a great word. Terry, thank you for that, and probably a great place to end right there. So if someone wants to be a part of your membership club, pick up your book, learn more about you, what's the best way to get a hold of you?</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 38:26&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">So I mentioned I have a blog called motivational check. It's motivationacheck.com, I put up a thought for the day with that thought comes a question about maybe how you could apply that thought into your life, you can leave me a message there, you can get access to my social media links. You can even buy my book there, you can pretty much buy sustainable excellence, online anywhere you can get a book online, but you can also download a copy for free at sustainable excellencemembership.com. And it also gives you more information about the membership. And you can also schedule a 15 minute call with me and we can talk about if it's something that you think you would benefit from.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 39:06&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Excellent. That sounds great. Alright, Terry, thank you again, for your time. It was it was a real blessing to talk with you again.</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Terry Tucker&nbsp; 39:13&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">Mutual. David, thanks very much. You know, I always say it's, it's nice people like you that allow me to come on and have a conversation with them. And, you know, hopefully that conversation makes a difference in somebody's life. And if it does, today's been a good</div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">David Sandstrom&nbsp; 39:25&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class="">day. I believe it will. Thanks again, thank you. For more, go to the show notes page at davidsandstrom.com/96. There you can find an audio as well as a video version of the podcast. I also put links to all the resources that we mentioned, as well as a full downloadable transcript. If you're enjoying the show, would you tell somebody about it? The number one way people find out about a podcast is that a friend tells them this information is hard to come by. So if you have a like minded friend, they might enjoy listening to the podcast as well and I believe they'll thank you for it. Thanks again for listening. I'll talk with you next week be blessed.</div><div class=""><br></div></div></div>
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		<title>90: Migraine Makeover: Transform Your Life Pain-Free &#8211; 95% Success Rate w/Tanya Paynter</title>
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</div></div></div><div class="tcb-flex-col" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f5ee4" style=""><div class="tcb-col dynamic-group-jul7xw4x" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f5ef0"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element dynamic-group-judxt25q" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f5f05"><p data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f5f12">Today's Guests...</p></div><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv-styled_list" data-icon-code="icon-check"><ul class="tcb-styled-list"><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f5f25"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style"><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f5f34">Dr. Tanya Paynter</span></li></ul></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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	<div class="tve-cb" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f5fa1"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element thrv-plain-text dynamic-group-jujqll8w" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f5ec1"><div class="tcb-plain-text" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f5fb0" style="text-align: center;"><strong>2.</strong></div></div></div>
</div></div></div><div class="tcb-flex-col" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f5fc8" style=""><div class="tcb-col dynamic-group-jul7xw4x" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f5fd1"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element dynamic-group-judxt25q" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f5f05"><p data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f5fe5" style="font-size: 24px !important;">Topics Discussed...w / Time Stamps</p></div><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv-styled_list" data-icon-code="icon-check" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f5ff5"><ul class="tcb-styled-list"><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6002"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6010" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6034">5:35 Getting started with the detective work</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6002"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6010" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6034">8:21 "Uncontrolled" migraine sufferers</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6002"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6010" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6034">11:55 Secular vs religious meditation</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6002"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6010" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6034">13:55 Doing things God's way</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6002"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6010" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6034">17:55 Low serotonin is a problem for migraine sufferers</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6002"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6010" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6034">21:41 What is whole food?</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6002"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6010" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6034">26:53 The problem with probiotics</span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6002"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6010" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6034">31:14 Spirit-mind=body relationship</span></li></ul></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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</div></div></div><div class="tcb-flex-col" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f60b7" style=""><div class="tcb-col dynamic-group-jul7xw4x" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f60d1"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element dynamic-group-judxt25q" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f5f05"><p data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f60e8" style="font-size: 24px !important;">Resources Mentioned...</p></div><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv-styled_list" data-icon-code="icon-check" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f60f2"><ul class="tcb-styled-list"><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6105"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6125" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 0.4-1.067 0.4s-0.933-0.133-1.2-0.533l-2.4-2.267-6.267-6.267c-0.267-0.267-0.4-0.667-0.4-1.2s0.133-0.8 0.533-1.2l2.4-2.4c0.267-0.133 0.667-0.4 1.067-0.4s0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l5.067 5.067 11.2-11.333c0.267-0.267 0.667-0.533 1.2-0.533 0.4 0 0.8 0.133 1.2 0.533l2.4 2.4c0.267 0.267 0.4 0.667 0.4 1.2z"></path></svg></div></div><span class="thrv-advanced-inline-text tve_editable tcb-styled-list-icon-text tcb-no-delete tcb-no-save" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6135"><a href="https://www.migrainemastery.org/" target="_blank" class="tve-froala fr-basic" style="outline: none;">Dr. Tanya's website</a></span></li><li class="thrv-styled-list-item" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6105"><div class="tcb-styled-list-icon"><div class="thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tve_no_drag tcb-no-delete tcb-no-clone tcb-no-save tcb-icon-inherit-style" data-css="tve-u-62f7b6208f6125" style=""><svg class="tcb-icon" viewBox="0 0 32 32" data-id="icon-check" data-name=""><path d="M29.333 10.267c0 0.4-0.133 0.8-0.533 1.2l-14.8 14.8c-0.267 0.267-0.667 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And then you become nutrient depleted, because you're not getting the variety that our bodies were made to have.<br><br>David Sandstrom 0:39 <br>Welcome to the Natural Health Matters podcast where it's all about maximizing your health potential, so that you can look and feel your best at any age. I'm your host, David Sandstrom, Naturopathic Doctor and Biblical Health Coach, and this is episode number 90. Today we have in the show Dr. Tanya painter. She graduated from the University of Washington with a bachelor's degree in cellular and molecular biology, and a minor in inorganic chemistry. Before attending basta medical school, she graduated in 2012 with a naturopathic medical degree, and has been treating women with chronic migraines for almost a decade. She is the founder of migraine mastery, a 24 week online program designed to significantly reduce migraines, and help women better manage their symptoms so they can get back to saying yes to life. Dr. Tanya, Welcome to Natural Health Matters.<br><br>Tanya Paynter 1:33 <br>Hi, David, thanks for having me here.<br><br>David Sandstrom 1:37 <br>Well, I appreciate you taking the time. So you know, one of the things I like to ask my guests is, how did you get to where you are today, where you are helping people with migraines, and you have your own practice, most people have a personal story. So I'd like to hear a little bit about yours.<br><br>Tanya Paynter 1:51 <br>You bet. Um, so I remember falling in love with medicine in the fourth grade sitting in my chair, you know, learning about how the body is has all these different things inside of it and just being fascinated. So that kind of started my, my journey towards medicine. But fast forward to when I was 16, I was involved in a car accident, I was rear ended. And that kind of started my headache journey. And, you know, I just It started as just kind of kind of intermittent headaches, and then it went to daily headaches. And then the migraines started. And the next 15 years were spent trying to find some solution to it. And I just remember feeling so alone. And you know, nobody else had this that I you know, was in my family or in my social circle. So nobody really understood the level of separation you feel when nobody else really experienced is the same thing. Yeah. And so that kind of also with that in my medical bent it I was very driven to try to figure out what's going on for my migraines. Why is this happening? And how can I fix it because I knew there had to be something besides just medication options. And when I found you know, naturopathic medicine, and that whole body approach, where we really look at the person as a whole being and all of the systems working together instead of you know, just the brain and then just the gut and just the, you know, kidneys or whatever that really drew me and the rest is history. I went to medical school, and then I kind of consider myself my first patient took me four years to treat myself. But I started understanding how everything kind of put together and was able to successfully treat my migraines. Now I get a headache when I'm sick, basically. And I haven't had a migraine and over seven years now, so praise God, I really felt called to absolutely yeah, I you know, when you're going through it, it's not something you really praise him for, right. But now looking back and and how the impact that I feel called to have on these other women that weren't where I was 25 years ago. I just feel so blessed.<br><br>David Sandstrom 4:00 <br>Well, you know, one of the phrases that you often hear is God won't waste your pain. And I think going through that experience, even though unpleasant as it was, you're in a better position now to help others because you've been there, you know, their pain, you know, what they're going through, and you know how to relate to those people?<br><br>Tanya Paynter 4:18 <br>Absolutely, yeah, I actually thank him almost every day for what I went through those 20 years.<br><br>David Sandstrom 4:24 <br>Wow. It's really awesome. So tell us a little bit about what you're doing right now in your practice and the course that you have just the 30 to 35,000 foot view?<br><br>Tanya Paynter 4:34 <br>Sure. The short answer is I left a primary care practice about two years ago and had developed an online program specifically for women with chronic migraines just because that's where I was feeling led and my passion really lied with with those women that that struggled the same way that I did. I think as is so often the case right? And and so now I'm just I'm treating women online I shouldn't say treating we're we're we work together remotely with my team of of migraine support staff and myself and help women who have migraines, you know, 10-15-20 plus migraine days a month to to gain control of their migraines again.<br><br>David Sandstrom 5:20 <br>So can you tell us basically your your strategy, and I know that you're, you're trained as a naturopathic physician. And I'd like to know, I have a pretty, pretty good idea. But for the for the Natural Nation, tell them a little bit about just speak to the idea of how a naturopath goes about even starting off with a patient that has 20 migraines a month?<br><br>Tanya Paynter 5:42 <br>Yeah, yeah, well, first of all, we want to use every every tool available, right? A lot of people think that as a naturopathic doctor, you don't you're you're very anti medicine. And you know, you don't want to do medications. And, and while it's true, there are some medications that are not great. There are others that are amazing. So we want to make sure that we're using all tools, and then we approach things from a whole body perspective. And what that means is, you know, there, there is so much research out there on migraines, and all of the different things that contributes to somebody with migraine. So we know that there's some genetics, we know that there's neurotransmitter imbalances, we know that there's hypersensitive pain pathways involved, we know that there's some cellular dysfunction that's happening that's contributing, you know, and I can list you know, about I have a list of about 50, or 60, different things that research has shown is connected or correlates with an increased migraine pattern. So, I've compiled all of that over, you know, my the last decade of treating women with migraines, and really started to understand kind of the big picture of what's going on. So we look at hormones, we look at the neurotransmitters, we look at how the genes are functioning, there's a lot of lifestyle stuff that we need to learn because we live in a very toxic world with a lot of chemical exposures, a lot of synthetic synthetic fragrances and cleaning products and things that we just don't really think about, because it's just how we do stuff. But somebody with a migraine body has to be a lot more aware of those kinds of things. So we really help our clients to understand, alright, what are they being exposed to, that's not helping their situation, but then also evaluating their biochemistry to understand what is out of balance across the entire body, not just as I said, not just endocrinology, not just gastroenterology, not just neurology, but all of it, and then putting it together in a particular combination for that individual, understanding that they're not all going to have the same issues, but they have their unique collection of issues. And we need to figure out what those are for them. Whether it's a hormone, neurotransmitter and genetic imbalance, whether it's a detoxification and nutrient depletion issue, we have to figure out that unique combination for that individual. And that's one of the reasons why migraines can be so hard to treat is because it's not a one size fits all thing. It's a very individualized understanding of that person's imbalances.<br><br>David Sandstrom 8:07 <br>Yeah. So has it been your experience that most of the patients that come to you, they've been to a medical doctor and been on some meds, and it hasn't worked? And that's why they find themselves in your office? Is that been? Has that been your experience?<br><br>Tanya Paynter 8:21 <br>Yes, it has been, you know, the statistics show that about 40% of people with chronic migraines don't respond to medication? Well, so they're considered uncontrolled. And that's a really high percentage, right. So it's usually the women that that have been to all the different doctors, they've a lot of times been to, you know, some of the really prominent medical facilities in the country, and they just still have not been able to figure out what's going on, the devices don't work for them, the supplements they hear don't work for them, all the different modalities don't work for them. And it's a matter of putting all of them together in a specific combination for that person. But it takes some it takes some investigation work, right, we need to really dig deep to figure out what's going on with their body and working on adjusting things for them.<br><br>David Sandstrom 9:10 <br>Right, the the functional or holistic practitioner has to put their detective hat on and do a little detective work to find out what where's the root here, not just treat symptoms, which is appropriate at times, right? If someone's really, really suffering, they might need some symptom relief. But over the long haul, we need to look at holistic principles. And I wrote I wrote a book called The Christians guide to Holistic Health. And it's my contention that we maximize our health potential no matter what we're dealing with, by aligning our lives more fully with God's natural design for spirit, mind and body. And it sounds to me like that's pretty much your approach. You look at a whole person approach human beings, our spirit, we have a mind or a soul, and we live in a body. And when we get when we start to look at a comprehensive approach to health care, we can't afford to ignore any part of a human being it's they''re all important, you know nutrition and exercise and sleep, they're all important hormone balance all that, but also our thought lives, what we choose the thoughts that we choose to ruminate on the beliefs that we hold. And our spiritual component, which is our relationship with God, relationship with one another, and our relationship with ourselves our self love and the self care. That's an important part of our, our sense of identity. That's all part of the spiritual component, as far as I'm concerned. So could you speak to the listeners a little bit about how you blend all that into your practice?<br><br>Tanya Paynter 10:33 <br>And, yeah, I agree 1,000% With everything that you just said, that's actually one of the components that we focus on, is that kind of trichotomy of body, mind and spirit. So everybody knows kind of the physical stuff, right? That's kind of the bread and butter of medicine. But and I think that we're starting to shift more towards the mind and the spiritual part more so the mind, but the the research behind the spiritual part is coming in as well. Like, there is a ton there's over 3000 research articles on spirituality, religion, and chronic pain, and healthcare related issues. And so we're starting to kind of develop that as well, which I think is amazing. And it's something that we should have been doing this whole time. But um, but there's, there's a lot of research on, you know, emotional traumas, childhood traumas, things that we're experienced as, as young adults or as children, that is tied into migraines. So that emotional component, and you know, our mental health is absolutely a key piece that needs to be worked through, and can be a reason, an underlying reason for, you know, a migraine situation. But then coming over to the spirituality side there, there's a huge, as I mentioned, a huge body of research that shows that. So there's one study in particular that I found fascinating meditation, secular meditation, so non religious, non spiritual meditation, improved pain, chronic pain, depression, you know, all the numbers they were looking at and improved it when the meditation was spiritual or religious based. So you know, connecting with God, or, you know, a prayer meditation, something like that, actually, was improved over the results of the secular meditation. So we're kind of moving forward, you know, as we're connecting. Yeah, yeah, it's really interesting. And they've, they've done functional MRIs and showing the different parts of the brain that are engaged when we're meditating versus a spiritual connection, or spiritual meditation. So when we're engaged in prayer, or speaking in tongues, or you know, any of those things that are associated with a religious practice, they actually show different parts of the brain that's lighting up and is engaged in that. And those parts of the brain can help to regulate the pain signals that we get, you know, improves depression, improve stress response, I mean, the list is crazy how how much is affected from our heart functioning to our blood pressure to you know, hormone balances, all kinds of different stuff. So it's, it's really interesting. And now they've got a whole field of study towards, you know, spirituality and brain and brain function. So it's really, I love watching kind of this new, new, new practice coming out about it.<br><br>David Sandstrom 13:24 <br>Yeah, I think that's really cool. Well, you know, I get a lot of not a lot, but I started a social media presence a couple of months ago, and I occasionally get some comments on some of my posts about someone who's hostile towards a belief in God and hostile towards biblical truth. And I just have to feel sorry for those people, and because they just really don't understand. You know, the Bible says, the fruit of the Spirit, first three fruit of love, joy and peace. Who would argue that a little more love, joy and peace in our lives is not health promoting? Right? I mean, so, you know, when we, when we do things God's way, we won't regret it. It's one of the things I learned from researching the book is that the Bible is our is like our owner's manual for life. And God is referred to as our Heavenly Father. And just like any loving parent, they want what's best for their kids, their children. So you know, moms and dads, they tell their small children, stay away from the stove, don't cross the street without holding my hand. They may not explain themselves at the moment, but they have the child's well being in mind. And the same is true with God. He loves us enough and he knows the future. So when he tells us to do something, it's for our benefit. And when he tells us to avoid something, it's for our protection. We've just got to hang on to those two truths. Those those truths are under attack these days. But it's a it's a it's a timeless truth, nonetheless that we can trust him and when we do, it brings more peace into our lives, brings relational connectedness, more love, and when we when we enjoy all those positive emotions, we trigger our rest and digest or a parasympathetic side of the nervous system. And that's where the body when the body does its healing, right? If we spent too much site too much time, in the other side of that equation, the sympathetic dominance, we do not heal and repair the way we want our bodies know how to heal, we don't teach cells how to do or do their jobs, we just have to get the obstacles out of the way. And sometimes that can be stress, mental, emotional, or physical. So if you could, let's talk a few a little bit about some of the physical stressors that you identify with people, some of the gut brain connection and that type of thing.<br><br>Tanya Paynter 15:45 <br>Yeah, so, you know, in the way that we approach migraines, I've kind of identified eight major focus areas. And so one of the first things that we look at is diet and gut, those are those are kind of the very basic foundational, really, of any health journey, right? And I'm guessing that's not going to be a surprise to anybody listening. But so we definitely want to look at you know, How is the food that we're eating, literally feeding into our chronic health issues. And that can come back to you know, anything from the pesticides being used, the the genetic modification that's been happening, cross contamination of some of the genetic manipulation that's going on with some of the crops, you know, corn and soy, the last time I saw a study on both of those, they're both 100%, contaminated, including the organic, you know, not supposed to be it's just, that's the way God made things to happen. It's it's fertilize, you can't you can't stop the cross pollination. And so those two, you know, those two types of food now are pretty much 100% genetically modified. So, so there's a lot of stuff that is causing inflammation in our in our gut, and that translates to inflammation in the rest of our body. And then then we have to take a look at that gut brain connection. So now we know that the majority of our serotonin 95% of our serotonin is actually made in and around the gut. And so it's not in the brain like we used to think I mean, obviously there's serotonin in there. And maybe let me back up serotonin is one of our neurotransmitters in case anybody doesn't know what that is, which basically, is our it's a feel good neurotransmitter it it helps us to kind of stay even keel gives us energy helps us, you know, boost our mood. It's what's deficient when we're depressed. It's usually a serotonin deficiency. And so and so there is a huge correlation between serotonin issues and migraine. triptans the the main medications that are used to help with migraines, kind of a first line of defense is, works on that that serotonin pathway. And so we have identified early on that serotonin is a big problem in chronic migraines. And so if we look at where standard serotonin is made, it's made in and around the gut. So if we're having foods that are causing inflammation, if we've taken a bunch of antibiotics, and so our gut bacteria is not where it needs to be, because things you know, have been off from that if we're taking medications, a lot of medications actually negatively affect our gut biome. And so when we're taking medications, that can actually kind of compound the problem, because we're not our gut is never really able to fully come back to the the balance bacteria that it needs in order to be in a healthy state. And so then you start seeing this negative downward cycle in our health where we're taking medications, but the medications are then interfering with our our gut lining causing inflammation, overwhelming detoxification, and liver pathways. And then we start seeing nutrient depletion is happening because we're not absorbing our food properly. And you know, you can see how this is just this, this negative downward spiral. So what we want to do is really work on you know, what kind of foods do we need to be eating to support a healthy, healthy gut? And then how can we, how can we heal the gut, this is the piece that I feel is so missing in migraines in specifically, but just in health in general, a lot of people are aware of, you know, elimination diets and food restrictions and things like that. And I start seeing, especially in the migraine population, because if you identify a food that triggers a migraine, you don't want to eat that food. So then then they avoid it. But then unfortunately, because the inflammation is still there, then you start being triggered by other foods and other foods. And then suddenly, you can eat chicken and rice and maybe one or two vegetables. And that's it. And that's what you stick with and then you become nutrient depleted, because you're not getting the variety that our bodies were made to have. And then and then we start down you know that other other pathway have kind of a malnutrition and your body is fighting so hard trying to stay in balance without the tools it needs.<br><br>David Sandstrom 19:56 <br>Yeah, let me interrupt you right there because I'm sure a lot of people will thank you right now. While she mentioned pro inflammatory foods and foods that people have trouble digesting, what are those foods? So what have you seen in your practice are the foods that are troublesome for a lot of people very common.<br><br>Tanya Paynter 20:12 <br>So common common foods, I kind of base it on kind of a modified paleo slash whole foods diet. So we gluten and dairy, I think it's not a surprise for most people have heard that. But then we also look, a lot of eggs are inflammatory for people, Nightshade. So things like potatoes and tomatoes are problematic for a lot of people. And then, you know, soy, as I mentioned, corn, some of those other kind of GMO things, those tend to be pretty inflammatory across the board. But then specifically, with a migraine population, we see a whole other combination of things. So there can be high histamine issues. So histamine is a neurotransmitter. It's also what our immune system puts out to help fight infections. It's pro inflammatory. And it's also what's involved in allergies, right. So there are people that have are triggered by histamine related things. And so a low histamine diet can be helpful, but not everybody needs a low histamine diet. And then there's there's other types of diets like that low tyramine, low arginine, those kinds of things. And so then, you know, you get somebody who's chronically dealing with migraines, and they're trying to go low, all of it. And they're left with like five different foods that they can eat, right. But generally speaking, just for health, in general, doing a whole foods diet, so I like the imagery that somebody had said, early on, in my medical school career, do they say a whole food is a food that looks like it looked in nature. So you know, if you're looking at white rice, you don't see white rice growing, that's not a whole food, brown rice, wild rice, where, you know, it looks like it did when it was growing in the field, an apple, just a whole apple is a whole food, but apple sauce is not. So if you kind of look at look at it from that perspective, and kind of just intuitively, you know, what, what looks like it used to before it was picked or you know, taken to the market. And those are the kinds of foods that we want to be eating tons of vegetables, tons of fruits, grass fed free range, happy cows and chickens, right? Ones that enjoyed their lives, not somebody that stuck in a stall, or in a huge corral with 1000 other animals. Those are the kinds of foods that we want to be eating to optimize. And then of course, we want to avoid foods that are processed or contaminated with pesticides. So we want to go organic as much as possible. And you know, and then there's the the impact to the to the wallet that comes with eating that way, right. But it's a matter of prioritizing our health. And then there's also the time investment that is required, we should be, you know, we have to make our food, I actually did a do a study in my local church, with people to kind of look at how the Bible is a guide to our health, and there is so much in there. And one of the things that we did last month was talking about how eating healthy isn't easy. God, you know, when we fell, we were told that we have to work the earth like we have, that's part of what we have to go through is we have to actually put work into our food into our nutrition. And, you know, if you look in Genesis, if you look at some of those other passages relating to to diet, it all talks about, you know, take joy in the work that it takes to create something nutritious and healthy for our body. So, you know, we just have to make those those priorities and those change those types of changes.<br><br>David Sandstrom 23:42 <br>Well, that was great. A lot of information. Well, I kind of sum up what you just said, but with this statement here, eat food is close to its God given natural form as possible. Right. Another way of saying it is buy food that spoils and eat it before it does. Right. So yeah, if it's in a box or a package, it's suspect, you know, people get into well, let's learn how to read labels. Well, yeah, you should read labels, and I do that. But it's not difficult to read a label on as you said, an apple, write a single ingredient food, we don't have to read the ingredients list. We know what's there. It's an apple, or it's a carrot or you know, it's beef. You know, it's a top sirloin steak. We know and as I said if you if you're practicing the good food choice habits, you know, you're you're eating a grass fed animal, pastured at least living a healthy happy life. And they provide a very, very high quality, nutritious form of food for us very nutrient dense, which is what we're after. So you mentioned earlier and I interrupted you, after we eliminate the kind of taking the fuel off the fire, so to speak, eliminate the foods that are bothersome, then you work on healing the gut. So let's talk about that a little bit.<br><br>Tanya Paynter 24:54 <br>Yeah, so So now we're looking at okay, we're starting to get the foods that are going to feed the good bacteria. And then we can start doing some, you know, more targeted support. So what that looks like there are certain nutrients like glutamine, that can be very helpful. There are certain herbs like slippery marshmallow root that are very soothing and healing to the gut. So we can kind of start a protocol where we're working on foods and you know, teas and things that can really help to heal the gut up. And then of course, there's supplemental options to kind of, you know, really get those those bulk doses in. And then, and then we also need to look at revisiting our gut biome. So what what bacteria is in there a lot of times, especially if we've had a long use of antibiotics, and we've got a lot of yeast strains that are in there that can be pro inflammatory. So the good bacteria helps to kind of crowd out the yeast. So that's one thing. There's, there's a kind of new emerging evidence of something called SIBO, small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, where bacteria from the large intestine is migrating backwards into the small intestine where it's colonizing too much. And in your body, we shouldn't have a lot of bacteria in our small intestine. So when that happens, our body sees that as an infection. And that can lead to a lot of kind of IBS type symptoms. And we're starting to really see a correlation between IBS and this SIBO infection. So if anybody has any issues with IBS, make sure you're tested for SIBO. But there's also a big connection between SIBO and IBS and migraine as well, about 54% of people are diagnosed with both. That's a pretty high percentage. So we know that that again, is highly it is it is. So that's something else that you know, is really important when it comes to that chronic pain piece, as we've been talking about. So we want to make sure that we're supporting that gut biome with good quality probiotics that we can add it now, the research has shown that the the general probiotics that we thought were helpful, the lactobacillus and the, you know, Bifidobacterium, and things like that, they are helpful while you're taking them, but they're not changing the gut biome in the way that we thought that it did. So when people are taking the supplement, they're seeing benefits, but when they stop, they kind of revert back to where they were. That's what the studies are showing. What they are seeing, though, is that soil based probiotics are what are actually influencing and changing our gut biome. So there's a handful of them out there, you can just Google soil based probiotics, those are going to be the ones that you want to look at when you're actually trying to change the gut bacteria in your body as opposed to just needing you know, a little extra gut, gut support. Right. So I think that's an important differentiation that we've recently discovered in the last five or six years.<br><br>David Sandstrom 27:45 <br>That's a huge point. Yeah. So is there anything else you'd like to add to the spiritual connection to health? Because I love want to have a practitioner on this follower of Jesus Christ and blends that into their practice? Is there anything you haven't mentioned that you'd like to mention, as far as that goes?<br><br>Tanya Paynter 28:03 <br>Yeah, I think it kind of comes back to kind of comes back to what you said earlier about the rest and digest a lot of chronic illnesses, migraines, you know, included in that are associated with that stress, that fight or flight sympathetic dominance. And one of the things that, you know, I've started looking into, and I kind of I alluded to the the studies that they did earlier, about, you know, how meditation is positively impacting, when we look at the role that stress and elevated cortisol has on our blood sugar on our neuro chemistry on our digestive functions on our immune functions. We see that this besides food, stress is the number one thing that is contributing to our general illness as a as a population. And so when I think about stress, it's, you know, it's sure everybody throws that around. Well, what does that exactly mean? I mean, if we look at we know a lot about how it's affecting our body, but what do we do about it? Because we live in a world where we're constantly plugged in, we're constantly connected via phones via you know, we're expected to respond to emails and text messages within within the hour, you know, that kind of pressure. That's not an that's not the way that we were designed to live. And so and I struggle with this myself is, you know, spending every day in the word just just for half an hour and even giving him a half an hour of my time during the day I struggled to do that. So I think that when, when it comes back to, you know, just kind of connecting our health with our spirituality is really evaluating our own priorities and what we're putting ahead of God putting ahead of our our own religious and spiritual practices. And I think that for me, I struggle with seeing that as the most important priority. It absolutely hands down should be I know that. I don't always follow that. And so I think that really just starting a conversation around what that looks like sitting down and thinking about it praying about, you know, how can I incorporate the Lord more into my everyday because I find that on the days that I start out, reading and praying for just 15 or 20 minutes, I am so much more focused, so much more relaxed and less stressed. And I tend to come back to Him in prayer throughout the day, and checking in with him, which then lowers my stress, as I continue to move through, it's really amazing, I started kind of, you know, observing this in my own habits. And so I start to see where if we can just really start to make this a true priority, a true goal of allowing ourselves that time to be with him that we actually like the our whole day the the trajectory of our whole day will change. And I've started becoming a little bit more unplugged. I've started engaging with my family more on the days that I do that, and being much more present. So yeah, I think that would be just another big thing.<br><br>David Sandstrom 31:15 <br>Yeah, thanks for sharing that, you know, one of the things I've been studying lately, as of late is that, as you just mentioned, when we start our days off that way, nurturing our spirit, then our thought life, or our minds, or our souls will come in alignment with our spirit that's connected with God. And it's our minds that animate our brains an organ in our brains run the bodies. So if we start off properly, with the spirit alignment with God, our mind will come in alignment with our spirit, and our body will come in alignment with all of that. And that's when we really start to see the magic happen. And I just wish more practitioners would understand that because it is a massive point, you can go around chasing symptoms, till the cows come home, physically on a physical level. But if you haven't addressed some of these spiritual and mental emotional aspects, you're going to have a hard time getting over some of this stuff, or recovering and really walking in that vibrant health and vitality that you should be that you're genetically capable of, which is really a huge point. You know, before we before we wrap things up here, Dr. Tanya, I'd like to talk a little bit about your migraine Mastery program. So I know that's something you're heavily involved with right now. So why don't you speak to us a little bit about what that looks like, and how you got involved in that kind of thing.<br><br>Tanya Paynter 32:38 <br>Yeah, so um, so when I, well, let me back up in 2019, actually, 2018 I was just scrolling through Facebook one day, and I clicked on an ad, which I never do. And within a half an hour, I had purchased this, this course on how to make an online course and I'm like, Okay, I don't even know why I did this. Very clearly. It was a poll I was being called. So I said, Okay, well, I'm game and I sat down and tried to decide, well, what do I want to do a course on? What am I creating here? And over the next, you know, two to three years, I, you know, I found I found, I found my purpose, right, this is what my entire life up until now has been geared towards preparing me for and, and doing, you know, God's work with this group of people. And so the program itself is a it's a 12 week course that takes women through all the foundational things that we need that we have science on that we know negatively affects our bodies and contributes to migraines. So again, as I talked about the eight areas of focus, there's the hormones, we look at the diet and gut health, we look at neurotransmitters genetics, the mental, emotional, spiritual components, and detoxification. So there's, there's, you know, those eight areas, and we're, they basically are going through and addressing all of those in a very structured way. Then I mentioned that it's migraines are not just a one-size-fits-all. Right, so then the next 12 weeks, for those that choose to work with me and my team, we actually dive deep into what they've noticed as they're continuing through that program, what they're observing about their migraines, starting to understand how diet is affecting them, how supplements affect them, that all gives us information, picking out patterns that we're seeing that gives us information about their migraines, and then we start really honing in on those problem areas. And then individualizing that plan for the next three to six months out helping them to kind of rebuild their health and bring them back to balance. And so that's essentially what the program does. And we're seeing about a 91% reduction of migraine days on average through through the clients that work with us and complete the course. Yeah,<br><br>David Sandstrom 34:58 <br>Yeah, that is really good. A couple of questions that I hear you're right. Did you say it took you two years to put this course together?<br><br>Tanya Paynter 35:06 <br>Yeah, I'd say that's about right. I started in 2018. And I was ready to enroll my first client. And in the beginning of 2020, I was also working full time at my clinic as well and raising a two and a four year old at the time. So it took me a little longer than it would otherwise have done.<br><br>David Sandstrom 35:22 <br>But I get that I get that. Yeah, it took me five years to write my book. But it was kind of an on and off thing. I wasn't full time on it for five years. But so also, I wanted to understand this. So it's not just a course that people sign up for and they're off on their own and off and running. You work with the clients as they go through the program, is that correct?<br><br>Tanya Paynter 35:44 <br>We have both available, we have just the foundation's course. So if they have a an awesome team, a doctor and practitioner team at home, that they can go to for support and help going through some of the labs and interpretation and applying that to them, then the foundations courses is great, and they can kind of do it at their own pace. And then for those that have a bit more of a complex history, or they've already exhausted all of the, you know, the knowledge that their doctor team or their team has, then they can choose to work with us through the program. And then and we're we're there kind of essentially walking right next to them the whole way.<br><br>David Sandstrom 36:22 <br>I got you, I got you. That's really, really good. Yeah, and 91% success rate. That is that's absolutely phenomenal. I think if someone's listening, and they're listening, they're struggling with migraines. Dr. Paynter is the one to contact. I mean, this is this is an incredible success rate. I don't know if you'd meet another practitioner that can make that claim. And you're obviously very passionate about this. It's a God-given passion. And you're taking your pain. And you know what you've learned through your experience and sharing it with others and blessing other people spanning the kingdom of God, I love it. It's just, that's just really, really you're hitting a homerun with this. I love it.<br><br>Tanya Paynter 37:01 <br>Well, I can't take the credit for it. It's all from him. And I just feel so blessed to be a part of it.<br><br>David Sandstrom 37:07 <br>Very good. So before we go, what is the the most important thing you'd like people to take away from this conversation? What would you like people to remember from what we talked about today?<br><br>Tanya Paynter 37:22 <br>Yeah, that's a great question. I think it would just have to come back to assessing priorities. I think it's really important for us to, you know, again, another personal admission, I was spending hours on my cell phone. Even when I wasn't working, I was sitting on the couch with my family, doing things on my cell phone. And so I started to realize, you know, this is this is becoming a problem. I, when I was not on my phone, I was wanting my phone. And so I think that when we kind of take a step back and prioritize. There was something about guilt for me, if I wasn't actively doing something, I felt like I was being lazy. I wasn't working hard enough. And I think that it's so easy to get into that trap of, you know, must do all the time. So after my kiddos ended School for the year, we went on a week long camping trip, and I didn't touch my phone once. Actually, that's not true. I did touch it a couple of times. But by and large, it was off. And I just engaged the whole time in a regular old book, and my family. And that was that was my week. And it was the most amazing week I've had in a very long time. Which when I came back, I just really started to reassess my priorities. And you know, do I want to be spending 12 hours a day in front of my computer working? Or do I want to spend six hours a day working and then the other 10 or whatever, with my family, enjoying the summer and making that a priority. So I've gone through a lot of, of emotional shifts, just in the last, you know, month, myself and that really kind of has driven home to me the importance of just really again, making God a priority and making your family a priority being present and not feeling like you have to go 100 miles an hour all the time because it's okay to sit and put your feet up for an hour or two a day. Like that's healthy. It's a good thing for us to do. So just kind of realigning that assessment of our of our day and understanding where we're choosing to put our time.<br><br>David Sandstrom 39:21 <br>I love it. That's a great reminder. Thank you for that. I really appreciate I needed to hear that. That's really good stuff. So Dr. Dr. Painter, how can people get ahold you if they want to get in touch with you? What's the best way?<br><br>Tanya Paynter 39:34 <br>Easiest way is probably my website migrainemastery.org. I can also are I'm also on Facebook, so I have my migraine mastery business page. And then also a free group for women with chronic migraines called migraine mastery in my migraine support group. And then I'm also on YouTube if you prefer to watch videos at migraine mastery a migraine free life<br><br>David Sandstrom 40:00 <br>Awesome. Thank you so much for your time today. I appreciate you being here.<br><br>Tanya Paynter 40:05 <br>It's been a wonderful conversation. Thanks for having me, David.<br><br>David Sandstrom 40:09 <br>For more, go to the show notes page at davidsandstrom.com/90. There, you can find an audio as well as a video version of the podcast. And I also include a full transcript that's downloadable, and some type of a content upgrade for each episode to help you go deeper with that subject. If you're enjoying the show, I sure would appreciate you telling somebody about it. And I think they'll thank you for it. Just remind them that you've been enjoying this podcast and you believe they might get something out of it as well. Remind them that it's free. And if they don't know how to subscribe, just ask them to hand you their phone, and you can subscribe for them. And if I show it appreciate you help spreading the word it would help a lot. That's it for now. Thanks again for listening. I'll talk with you next week. Be blessed<br><br>Transcribed by https://otter.ai<br><br class=""></div></div>
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