Dr. Marc DiNola is a Biological Dentist and he takes a natural and holistic approach to oral health. He helps people regain their health by looking at the whole person, not just filling cavities and treating periodontal disease.
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David Sandstrom 0:00
I think for a lot of people because they're so used to a traditional dentist, when you say, This guy is a natural dentist, they might not know even what that really means what? You know, what do you all about? What Why would I even want to go to you versus a traditional dentist?
Dr. Marc DiNola 0:14
What what a traditional dentist might not ask is if you poop every day, which sometimes I asked. So it's really to see if the detox pathways are open if the thyroid is functioning correctly, so it's more medical in nature, some of my ideas, but yeah, what does it mean? It means I look at the whole person and I look at what their weaknesses are. And I sometimes say kryptonite, err. And anyway, to clarify, what I mean is I kind of take apart reverse engineer, why did that person get into that situation? So as as I'm thinking these things, I look and see, it's not necessary to test for mercury in your, in your blood or body if you have it right in your mouth that I can see. So it really opens up a big realm that is not just, you know, fixing teeth and making sure someone doesn't have gum disease, that kind of thing.
David Sandstrom 1:10
Welcome to the Natural Health Matters podcast where it's all about maximizing your health potential, so that you can look and feel your best at any age. I'm your host, David Sandstrom, Naturopathic Doctor and Biblical Health Coach, and this is episode number 82. Today we have in the show Dr. Marc DiNola. Dr. Marc has devoted his life to helping people whose oral conditions are affecting their whole health. Dr. Marc has found it very common for people to suffer from chronic neck or shoulder pain, headaches, and insomnia. He's been practicing since 1993 and licensed by the Dental Board of Maryland. Mark is also a member of several dental associations, including the American Dental Association, The Holistic Dental Association, and International Academy of oral medicine and Toxicology or IAOMT, Mt. Dr. Mark, welcome to Natural Health Matters.
Dr. Marc DiNola 2:04
Thanks for inviting me, David.
David Sandstrom 2:06
Dr. Mark, tell the Natural Nation what it is that you do.
Dr. Marc DiNola 2:09
I'm a dentist and I've was trained in Maryland as a as a common traditional dentist. But in recent years, I've become what we call a holistic or biological dentist. And I think of that the whole body, not just the teeth and gums and head neck. But I think about the whole connection that we are learning about.
David Sandstrom 2:29
Well, you're singing my song, and this is Natural Health Matters. And we're all about body, mind and spirit here. So that's right, that's right up our alley for sure. So a lot of times when I'm talking to people, they had a health crisis or a major event in their life that led them on the path that they're in today. So is there was there an event like that in your life?
Dr. Marc DiNola 2:49
I would say the event actually that triggered my interest in biological Dentistry was a patient brought some information to me. So it was kind of an interesting way of learning about biological dentistry of although I would say I probably was being seeking to buy my work in terms of which we could get into later. But there's an occupational hazard of working with amalgam fillings, mercury fillings, so I would say I wasn't feeling my best that at that time. And so once I learned about this possibility, I just ventured into these Academy meetings and learned a lot really quickly. And so it changed the trajectory of my my career changed dramatically in 2009. When I learned about, well, the possible toxicities and things.
David Sandstrom 3:41
But I first heard about that at a seminar.
Dr. Marc DiNola 3:44
No, I'm sorry, I did hear about it from a from a magazine called it's DAMS. It's an IT stands for dental amalgam syndrome. And it's a non for profit out of Minneapolis. And the gentleman I got on the phone pretty much immediately learning about what I didn't know and what I was told. So I guess my journey has been about the truth, which is probably something that rings for you as well, the truth about a lot of things that I was taught, and and unfortunately, they're their influences on dental schools and and trade lobby situation where maybe it's not all clear. And it's kind of, I would say, in a way covered up some of the facts about about things. I can go more into detail about that.
David Sandstrom 4:36
Yeah, yeah, we'll get into that for sure. But continuing with the introduction here, and part of your bio was you're a member of the Holistic Dental Association, and International Academy of oral medicine and Toxicology. Could you tell us a little bit about what those organizations do and why why you consider valuable to be a member of that.
Dr. Marc DiNola 4:53
Yeah, thanks for asking the question again, that I didn't answer. Well, the academy is probably my go to learning I place now, the International Academy of oral medicine and toxicology has physicians and toxicologist and dentists. And they're often twice a year, they're often really current in terms of things that are going on. So I just I bought an iPad and started learning everything I could, things that I was not aware of. And that Academy meeting and then the Holistic Dental Association is a little smaller, but it's just a group of people that say, maybe they won't use fluoride. And maybe they won't do this and do that. And it's kind of there, there are several other biological academies that are smaller than I than a member of too, but it's just learning about everything you can about how our body interacts with the world. And then, of course, what materials we use and the compatibility or the, the, the lack of compatibility of some of these materials. And and, of course, the general trends in nutrition and current theories on on pathophysiology of disease is always always there.
David Sandstrom 6:12
Yeah, you know, I find, I think you're a real find, because it's very difficult to find a holistic dentist or a natural dentist. You're You're You're a very rare individual indeed. So tell us a little bit about what it means to be a natural dentist or holistic dentist.
Dr. Marc DiNola 6:30
Well, before I before I go there, can I just say this for your audience. So I always refer people to the IAOMT, and there's a website where, or there's a link where you can put in your zip code, and then you can kind of get a general sense of your location, because it's difficult. I have people fly in here to my office, but it's difficult for some of these procedures to be to be done in one or two appointments. So. But anyway, that would be what I would recommend the the IAOMT, I will put that in the show notes for sure that in the show notes. Thank you. As far as as far as what does it mean? I'm sorry, I didn't answer the question. I?
David Sandstrom 7:08
Well, I think for a lot of people, because they're so used to with traditional practice, when you say this guy is a natural dentist, they might not know even what that really means. What what, you know, what do you all about what, why would I even want to go to you versus a traditional dental?
Dr. Marc DiNola 7:23
Well, I kind of I kind of was the middle child and I kind of used levity a lot. But what I what a traditional dentist might not ask is if you poop every day, which sometimes I asked. So it's really to see if the detox pathways are open if the thyroid is functioning correctly. So it's more medical, in nature, some of my ideas, but yeah, what does it mean? It means I look at the whole person and I look at what their weaknesses are. And I sometimes say kryptonite, are their weaknesses and, and, and the medications that they're already on would indicate, you know, for example, Synthroid around here and in the nation is like the top 10. So the mercury can,
David Sandstrom 8:03
For those that don't know Synthroid would be a medication for a thyroid thyroid,
Unknown Speaker 8:06
Hypothyroidism. Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah. And anyway, to clarify, what I mean is I kind of take apart, reverse engineer, why did that person get into that situation, and I'm not a physician, so I can't really change their meds. But my part is to try to point them in the right direction and hope that they have a naturopathic doctor. But so as as I'm thinking these things I look and see, it's not necessary to test for mercury in your, in your blood or body if you have it right in your mouth that I can see. So the wonderful thing about I'm looking into someone's body, really, we can see the tongue and see the airway, we can see dry tissues, we can see xerostomia dry mouth, from medications. And you can see if people are grinding, clenching, those types of things. So it really opens up a big realm that is not just, you know, fixing teeth and making sure someone doesn't have gum disease, that kind of thing.
David Sandstrom 9:07
Yeah. Yeah, that's fantastic. I love it. So why don't we jump right into mercury amalgam fatal fillings right now, I find a lot of people have them in their mouth. And they really have no idea that that could be adversely impacting their health and wellness. So let's talk let's talk a little bit about what an amalgam filling is, how they came to be so popular, and why they are not the best idea to have had that in your mouth. Yeah,
Dr. Marc DiNola 9:32
So you're not unusual to say most people don't know that half the population does not know that mercury fillings have 50% Mercury, so to say, to say, really succinctly, they've been allowed and they've been used for 150 years or more. When when they were, you know, the alternative possibility so there was gold, and they were mercury fillings you know, at this day and gold has always been expensive. In fact, right now it's expensive. And, you know, it seems to be going up like all commodities but, but mercury fillings have 33%, about third Merc of silver 50% Mercury. And then there's there's other metals like tin, and copper. Anyway, it's a it's it's a small battery in your mouth. And that's been proven. You know, two dissimilar metals and an aqueous solution is a battery. So there are some charges associated with them. There's a current. The The sad thing about it is we've known, let
David Sandstrom 10:37
Can I interrupt you right there Dr. DiNola? So we have, so somebody might be asking, Well, what's wrong with the current in the mouth? Well, the body has very, very subtle electrical signals that run through our meridians, or energy meridians throughout the body. And they all run through the mouth. And when you have an electrical signal inside the mouth, it's not supposed to be there. It's disruptive to our bodies, very, very subtle electrical flow. So we have electricity in our bodies that flows through our nervous system. And it's how our heartbeats and it's how our eyes see. And it's how our organs operate. But there, the amperage, and the voltage is very, very subtle. So when we introduce a foreign electrical signal inside the body, as you say, when you open up your mouth, you're looking inside the body, that is detrimental. That is not part of God's design. And it's my contention that we maximize our health potential, when we align our lives more fully with God's natural design for spirit, mind and body. In this case, having an electrical battery inside your mouth is not part of our natural design.
Dr. Marc DiNola 11:42
That's a nice way to look at it. I agree. 100%. Yeah, in fact, the current is so high that it's, you know, might be 100 times higher than maybe 1000 times higher than your brain, you know, and it's right close to your brain. So yeah, I mean, that's actually the reason why I don't believe in, you know, to just jump on to the root canal situation that blocks the meridians as well. So, vital structure not being vital anymore is a problem is problematic in all of medicine. Fact, 2,000 amputations a day occur in United States when there's a diabetic toe or foot or whatever, and they can't get the blood flow back. So I look at these things as as like you're saying it's, our bodies are wonderful, wonderfully made. And they and there's resistance to bacteria, when the things are working correctly. When you have the right nutrition, there's fluid coming out of a tooth, it's kind of being pulsing out of the tooth, motorcycle, you know, so it is it is a natural system that's designed for health, actually resist decay, and plaque. And, but with these charged items in there, it actually tends to attract plaque. These metal fillings and even traditional dentists will say we'll say there's more periodontal problems around mercury fillings, and they won't really recognize that is causing local dysfunction. But the current is an interesting, it's something that they taught in dental schools in the 40s. They call it a galvanism. And galvanism is really not taught anymore. I would I would say, I'd venture to say it's not even discussed too much. Because we're using a whole array of metals with the implants and dental implants have nickel and titanium, then you have a chrome crown and a chrome partial and you have all their stuff going on. So that that you know, and you're you're the way you first asked me this question. It is it is not on anybody's radar. In fact, I feel like we'll talk some more about this, but children can receive a Mercury filling and not and their parents are not even aware of it. And that's that, to me, that's could be considered assault today. So
David Sandstrom 13:59
yeah, yeah, that's, that's amazing. So, so we know Mercury is toxic, we know it creates an electrical signal, our energy inside of the mouth and inside the body. So let's say somebody's listening, and they say, Well, I want to get these things out. I would suggest that you don't want to go to over a traditional regular dentist to get that done. So could you talk to that a little bit? Yeah,
Dr. Marc DiNola 14:22
Part of the academy is to teach and we've been trying to teach everybody any dentist how to do this safely. And that's the key. The key is safe removal, where vapor particles are all taken into consideration and strictly confined and controlled. So you can I like to use analogy of asbestos because everybody knows about that. Or lead paint. You don't sand your lead paint on your porch. You don't sand it, you don't do it in your house. That'll aerosolize But Mercury when you cut it, you heat it. There's actual vapor and the vapors looking for electrons and It's very dangerous form of mercury. So the safe conditions that we use, I mean, I have several $1,000 worth of equipment to control the air that's breathed in the room by my staff and myself, my patient, we're giving external oxygen to the patient, we're covering and draping the patient. And it's on my website, which is MddentalWellnessCenter. But it's on the IAOMT's website. But it is most dentists that are holistic should have some some verbiage about the fact that they, they do a safe removal process. If it's not being done safely, people can get sick, because often, you know, you probably know this, but often someone's bucket is almost all full, they may add another exposure, mold or something or lime, and then they get unsafe removal, it can it can really do a number on their mitochondria and their energy and thyroid, whatever. So
David Sandstrom 15:57
What Dr. Mark is talking about right here, Natural Nation is total body load. So generally speaking, if someone's at a practitioner, and they're saying, Hey, Doc, I don't feel well, it's because their total body load all the burdens that their body is carrying from toxic buildup, for instance, mercury fillings, or maybe it's air pollution, maybe it's maybe they live in a big city, and they're they've unclean air all day long, maybe they never get outdoors, there's a lot of things that build up to cause our bodies to basically have a carry around a ball and chain that weighed us down and prevent our bodies or inhibit our bodies from doing what they already know how to do, which is thrive. So when you have somebody who's not feeling well, their total body load is high. And when you when you do something like get mercury fillings removed improperly, that could push that person over the edge to having something really, really serious and difficult to get over.
Dr. Marc DiNola 16:50
Yeah, that is set. Often in chiropractic, you'll see the neck problem or is the trigger. So like a whiplash injury might be the trigger or mold might be the trigger. So yeah, I mean, it's good to talk about that. So you talk about it as body load total body load. Yeah. So yeah, so our terrain is is what God intended our terrain to be. have such a such amount of all these elements. And it's the introduction of these bad things in our soil that caused the problem. Yeah. That's the kind of way I look at it, like you said, 35,000 feet.
David Sandstrom 17:30
Yeah, very good. So if somebody did want to get their fillings, amalgam or mercury fillings out, they will go to the IAOMT website,
Dr. Marc DiNola 17:39
Find a doctor. And then you put your zip code and it goes by states. And I can, you know, I can tell you a lot of there's a lot of difference between a lot of dentists, so you have to be careful. You know, and look for that. They're really watching mitigations and safety. And I mean, I do full mouth, amalgams removal with sedations. And I also do half the mouth overnight, like they stay in town. So a lot of dentists will be catered to, it will be pos ah possible to remove most mercury in you know, a few setting it few times. But again, it has to be by a trained person.
David Sandstrom 18:18
Yes. With the with the made the investment in the equipment in the office. Yeah. Right. So a traditionally trained dentist has not been trained in this, they just don't know. And the problem is, they don't know how much they don't know. Yeah, right. You know, when when JFK Jr. was killed in his light airplane, I met him he, uh, he was on our flight about about a week before he died. And he walked up and he said, Hi, I'm JFK, Jr. So, ya know, he says, Yeah, I just got my private pilot's license. And I really enjoy your planes. And we showed him the cockpit. We talked for a few minutes, he knows and it was a great guy. But he took his light airplane up and flew into a dark space, which was instrument conditions, and he was only rated for visual flight. And even though the airplane he owned that he was flying that night, had a very sophisticated autopilot that could have easily taken care of him. He didn't know how to use it. And he got that airplane into a deep spiral. And they spiraled all the way into the outer. So he didn't know how much he didn't know. And the same would apply to a traditionally trained dentist if he hasn't taken the initiative on his own. To get an education about the hazards of mercury filling removal. You could be doing a lot more harm than good. If you go to a guy like or gal like that.
Dr. Marc DiNola 19:31
yeah, one of your other philosophies that I picked up was mindset and being fixed mindset versus open mindset. And that the problem is we're trained to learn this thing and think it's just, that's the way it is. And then unfortunately, it's kind of a sad thing, but because because dentists start to get mercury toxic themselves. It's more difficult to learn new things. It sounds it sounds like I'm simplifying it But it's true. But I have a lot of dentists that learn like the greatest and best dentistry and they learn about Botox, and they learn about this and that, but what they think is is sort of in the bag was the things that they learned in dental school, and those things have evolved and materials are changing so quickly. I think we're behind in less than two years, if you're not really keeping up, you know, with these things. So, yeah, so the minds like being open minded about Yeah, well, that's a possibility. Of course, I was angry when I first learned about Mercury. But as you as you kind of come to find out, if you love your job, you're gonna learn how to do it safely. And I'm sure while you were while you were flying, there are new and new new protocols and new safety things that were put in place. So
David Sandstrom 20:47
yeah, lots of them. We don't have time to get all that. But yeah, lots. And flying has gotten a lot safer as a result of that. I would love to share a bunch of that, but we don't really have time. So after someone gets their fillings removed, their mercury fillings removed, do you do a detox with them? Do you put them on a metal detox
Dr. Marc DiNola 21:07
now? Well, what I tried to do is work with practitioners like yourself, and whether they're natural paths, physicians are pretty good. If we talk about, you know, nutrition and getting there, make sure they're going the bathroom because the bowels are like the key. Well, the major problem is, is is re re toxifying yourself because mercury goes out through the gallbladder through the dumps into the large intestine, when when it does that burn through the intestine. When it does that. It can it can read toxify you so excuse me? Yeah, I think what you need to think about is some some scavengers, and some, some things to capture, like activated charcoal. And so we do talk to patients about that. I mean, their zeolite, like there's so many things that they talk about, but natural food pectin, and some natural celatersr are really nice organic cilantro. And we talk about different foods, but main thing is a lots of fluid and making sure you're going in the bathroom every day. And then again, that the experience of that there's something that happens, but when Mercury is removed from the mouth, there is a commensurate like change in the body because that stress is off, so then it starts to release. So you have to be careful. Some people use the Cutler protocol, which is tricky, but it's Alpha Lipoic Acid, you're trying to grab that electron every time. There are so many different I think you need to be guided through the detox. You know, detox like you probably help people a lot with that. I tried to get them on the right supplements. I have amino acids in orgqn supplements and I you know, I even recommend a vegetarian diet because they get off of the the junk. I mean, meat, getting the junk slug is makes you sluggish, and it slows up your fatty liver and those types of things. So I think vegetarian diets okay, maybe for for detox purposes. But yeah, I mean, we could argue
David Sandstrom 23:11
That's a perfec lead in. So yeah, if you're already had the fillings you already have in your mouth, and then you've got to deal with it, but better to not get the cavity in the first place. Right. So let's talk about how nutrition impacts oral health and how that can keep our teeth healthy and strong. Beyond just avoiding sugar. I think everyone know, most people know that sugar, you know, consumption, a lot of sugar consumption is bad for oral health. But let's talk let's go a little deeper than that.
Dr. Marc DiNola 23:37
Yeah, well, I would say is the choice of foods, it doesn't matter if it's sugar, but the processed food in general is is comes with a very empty sort of nutritional complement. So if if, say United States were eating like, a bunch of seed oils, and sugar and 60% of our calories are coming from like this processed food blend, we're not getting the things we need. So my my contention is like my thought pattern is getting the real foods back in and talk about grandma, you know, our great grandma's recipes and whole foods and cooking from scratch. Getting rid of really, I mean, the processed food is unbelievable. It's about 80% of what people eat. And so it's very sad. But it's another thing that they're not really bringing up in this whole with the COVID mess, but they're not talking about diet as much as they should. And, you know, D3- is something you can get through fermented cod liver oil, and fermented soybean and that has K-2 in it which Ketu helps facilitate the the rendering of calcium in a way that's more healthy. getting it out of the soft tissues and putting into hard tissues is the way I say it. So vitamin K two, activates a couple of proteins but osteocalcin is one pulls down See him into odontoblasts or, or bone or teeth cells, and then it gets it out of soft tissue. So it's an important vitamin that that people are missing. And so what I was saying is like, the fact that you're eating a poor diet, you're actually lacking that even more. So it's an egg. It's an egg and yellow fat. It's in like grass fed beef, eggs, and your audience probably knows about K-2, but that's another thing people don't know about, honestly.
David Sandstrom 25:33
Yeah, that's a really good point, your
Dr. Marc DiNola 25:35
your question about plaque, if you have the bad diet, your plaque is going to be different than if you have a good diet. And so the good diet your plaque is, is good until it's not good. And if you feed the bugs with bad things, you're gonna, they're gonna grow. And so it's the combination of nutrition from systemically in the cells like the K-2, but it's the topical reaction of the microbes in the mouth, or 700 species of bacteria in the mouth. So if you feed them, let's say high fructose corn syrup, they're going to grow in different ways. And that's where we start to get the what we call carrie genericity, or cavity promoting bacteria, and Dr. Weston Price. And some others have shown that if you if you have the right foods, actually the plaque changes to the point where those those bugs are crowded out, and they don't exist in the in the numbers, if that makes any sense.
David Sandstrom 26:34
So if I'm hearing you, right, it's not so much that we're not brushing Well, or it's not so much that we're not chewing gum, or you know, drinking high sugary soda or things like that. It's also a matter of getting good solid nutrition on a regular basis. Right. So we went when we, our bodies have to take the food that we eat and turn it into us. And when it comes to strong teeth and bones, because teeth are basically bones that we can see, right? So we need to get certain nutrients to make may help our bodies build strong teeth and bones. So K-2 you said,
Dr. Marc DiNola 27:15
Magnesium, boron, calcium. They're silicone, I mean, there's a lot of collagen is makes up 40% of your bone. I also do a lot of surgery. So we, when we talk about building back the bone, I've been saying build back bone better, just because it sounds fun. It's correct. But when we build backbone, we want all the building blocks to be there. And collagen makes up 40% In the bone. And it's also in in teeth. So it's a simple protein. It's actually one of the I guess it's the most ubiquitous protein in our body is collagen. So vitamin C supports that. And again, it's like the anti nutrients, the lack of nutrients that transform the plaque and make you more susceptible individual. I mean, there's there are studies where people have no no hygiene, but they don't have the bad food and they don't get cavities.
David Sandstrom 28:16
Right. So, right. That's amazing. It kind of goes contrary to what we've been told years. So you build health from the inside out. When you strengthen your internal terrain, your body's able to fight off the bad guys, the undesirable microscopic organisms, and you don't have as much trouble. Yeah.
Dr. Marc DiNola 28:34
So let's Yeah, that's actually a follow up idea, which is your it's your prebiotics, you know, your it's the beginning of your gut. And so we we've been told to just like, make a desert every night, you know, Listerine and just strip it. Well, we don't even know there's some nuance thing when you swallow bacteria, maybe when you I like to like rinse my mouth and swallow whatever's in my mouth in the morning. I mean, it could be nothing. It could be in probably. Anyway, there. There's genetic material, as you know, you know, shared between them in these biofilms in our in our mouth and gut. So who knows, but I think I think you're right about it's sort of a paradigm shift in terms of what we should be talking about. Yeah,
David Sandstrom 29:19
yeah, absolutely. So let's shift gears a little bit. Let's talk about another item that people are very much unaware of, and that is root canals. So you're the expert here, but a root canal is when you have so much disease in your tooth, the tooth is lost its vitality, it's dead, it's a dead organ or dead body part. And they're doing their best to save the tooth. So they feel it. Talk about the hazards associated with root canals if you would,
Dr. Marc DiNola 29:47
let me just set the scene a little bit more. So if you if you do all the right things that don't get decay, you won't need a root canal, okay? I don't cut a tooth several times to do restoration and then you need a car around, you won't need a root canal, also trauma from from bruxism, grinding your teeth clenching. Also, just trauma in general will revitalize a tooth. Now when a tooth is devitalized, that means it doesn't have its blood flow doesn't have its lymphatic system going, and its innervation. So, again, what is a tooth is a structure, some chiropractors and people I know think that each tooth will represent, you know, it'll know what kind of food we're eating and kind of sense things and get things ready down below in terms of organ, you know, manufacturing, like enzymes and things like that. So once that that form is been altered, I think the function changes, maybe it can't do its job, there's really no dead, I would say, item like a toe or anything. And I think I talked about this at the beginning, but there's nothing that doesn't have you know, every every cell has a capillary blood vessel coming to it, it's hard to believe that we have 100, once it loses that, that information is gone. And when that information is gone, there's also some problems with the flow of fluid, like I told you, so that the pressure is not inside the tooth anymore, and it's not flowing like a nice fountain. And it's not resisting plaque, so is therefore the opposite. It's bringing in things and it's it's it's more of a I believe it's more of a sink, you know, a swamp, you know, sort of a niche for bacteria. Actually, it's it's noted that it's from the gut that we see these different bugs. So there's about 150, but we test for about 100 Different anaerobic bacteria through DNA analysis today, and every every 100% of them come back with with different bacteria, these anaerobic bacteria have their own like problems associated with producing like chemicals like mercaptan, and sulfur dioxide and these sulfur kind of compounds can create clotting problems, that the bacteria themselves are released in our bloodstream upon you know, mastication or chewing chewing on your teeth that have root canals, those teeth cannot send the pressure on them anymore. So therefore, sometimes they're fractured a fracture, but there's a there's there's an intimate relationship with the blood, blood flow around teeth. So they do you get bacteremia is when you brush your teeth floss, when you get a cleaning, there's bacteremia bacteria go up in the blood. So people with the root canals will have, we can test you know, you can test for bacteria in the blood. So anyway, the problem is, again, you mentioned about blocking a meridian. So we feel that in the holistic community that that's the number one way to block them right in his having a tooth. You know, now you have a tooth with a Mercury filling in it. And you know, you can picture the scenario there.
David Sandstrom 33:06
Yeah. So, in other words, the train is running down the tracks, but the bridges is out.
Dr. Marc DiNola 33:11
I, yeah, I basically don't do them anymore. Personally, I refer if somebody wants to save their tooth, I don't recommend them. And then Dr. Thomas Levy is a cardiologist who I usually quote, and then there are others, but he's a prominent educator and in the realm of like vitamin C, and he wrote death by calcium talking about K-2. But he wrote a book about the hidden epidemic, and it's all about dental infections, and he is also an attorney if I said that or not. So he's written this down and and backed it up, and he thinks root canals are causal for some disease. You know, cardiac, he's a cardiologist so he thinks it's, it's causal for heart disease. So if someone is if someone has heart condition, and they have root canals, I am recommending, you know, 3d scans, see what the see what the bone looks like, see if it's there's breakdown. See if the tooth fracture and see if it looks like it's not really working anymore, then we talk about it from there.
David Sandstrom 34:17
Yeah, there is evidence, plenty of it in the published medical literature that poor oral health is associated with cardiovascular disease. I could put some links in the show notes to some of those articles.
Dr. Marc DiNola 34:28
It's not much of a leap from periodontitis, which is periodontal disease where the bone is being affected to what what a root canal is, which is Peri apical periodontitis? So it's the same sort of array of chemicals like interleukin six and tumor necrosis factor and some of these things that we know amp up C reactive protein in the liver. So tell me how that gets to the liver. You know, it's all the chemistry of the cytokines. So anyway, I I can talk very high I level I'm trying to bring it down. But I just I know you're right about that. I mean, it's a known entity.
David Sandstrom 35:07
So if someone is a candidate for a root canal, you don't do them anymore. Of obviously, removing the tooth would be an option. Correct? And is would you consider that to be a healthier option?
Dr. Marc DiNola 35:18
Um, yeah, I think I think short term and planning. So if there's anterior teeth, that are that are needing a root canal, maybe short term is not a problem. Getting people out of pain is not a problem. But But long term, I think there's a problem. So I begin root canals and I get people out of pain, but long term, for example, like if you're diabetic, you're happy, you're twice as likely to have a root canal fail early on. So you know, just things like that. It's like, select, we have to be more selecting, like looking at the person and saying, what, what could they handle? I mean, maybe they can't handle that. Maybe they could. But yeah, I don't recommend them anymore.
David Sandstrom 36:05
Yeah, so someone opted to get the tooth removed? What do you what are your thoughts on getting a dental implant?
Dr. Marc DiNola 36:11
Well, at this time, I, I would say I'm only using ceramic implants. And I'd be rare in that regard. But there are now four or five implants that are ceramic, or there's a, there's a cerconia oxide, which you could look up and it'll say that it's ceramic, but it's a different, it's a different structure than like titanium implants. So I wouldn't, I don't really recommend titanium anymore, unless it's a quality of life thing where there's no way to do anything except for maybe an overdenture. And there have a lot of atrophy and their bone is is gone. And there's only one way to do it. Yeah, but I think I think an implant is a loads that reloads the meridian is, in fact, and it probably is better than not having a tooth there. We can do bridges. And we could do other things to bring teeth back into the mouth, you know?
David Sandstrom 37:08
Yeah. So when a tooth is removed over over time, the jaw says, Well, I don't have any use for this bone that was holding that tooth. So we we have bone loss over a period of time. Is that correct?
Dr. Marc DiNola 37:21
Yeah, I mean, the this, again, form and function that a tooth sits in a ligament and the ligaments stimulate, it's kind of like why you tell people to go walk. And that's how we, we activate our skeleton. And that's how we make bone grow. And so to have this digital is to stimulate, because it's like it's being it has fibers, all kinds of different fibers on it's attached to it. So it stimulates the bone as you chew and function.
David Sandstrom 37:50
It's my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, Dr. Marc, that a lot of times when a root canal is done, there is still some remaining bacteria in there. And if it's not flushed out well, that you can embed that that infection underneath the root canal. Is that Is that a problem? Is that correct?
Dr. Marc DiNola 38:07
Yeah, I mean, again, looking at the form of something, how it was designed, if, if we look at how it was designed, the blood, the blood vessels are in the center, there are cells with appendages or cell bodies going out to the end of the route out to the ligament, when it when a tooth is devitalized those teeth, those cells die, and you only have the housing of the there these tubules. So there's 1000s of tubules on a tooth, and those are susceptible to migration of bacteria. So it's true, you cannot clean a completely root canal specialist might tell you that a dentist might tell you that but they don't really they hedge and say the body can deal with it, and there'll be some healing but unfortunately, that's not the way that the way it really is. And they're most of these things are asymptomatic by the way. Most dental disease does not hurt. You can have a cavity for a long time. It doesn't hurt. You're gonna have gum disease, it doesn't hurt but you have to look for signs and symptoms. And that's why being able to look inside your body really nice. Bing. Yeah.
David Sandstrom 39:14
Yeah. Excellent. That's really good. So to wrap things up, can you leave the Natural Nation the audience with some low hanging fruit? What are some steps they can take to get a quick win and start improving their oral health that would ultimately improve their health and wellness altogether?
Dr. Marc DiNola 39:31
Yeah, I mean, we kind of talked about not not eating the processed food. If you can't pronounce the food labeling, you know, read labels if you can't, if it says carrot, that's a carrot, that's good eat that. You know if it's if it's, that's the main thing. I mean, that's the reason why people are sick today is they're eating the wrong things. The other thing is I agree with you with the mind spirit. I mean, you have to have, hopefully you have a higher power of some sort and your Spiritual in terms of, you know, fellow man and trying to be altruistic and you know, your happiness will be dependent on that actually doing things for other people and being kind so, and then the other one would be moving. And so the low hanging fruit is like the stuff you started off talking about, which is mind body spirit. If something like, Would God be happy if you smoked a cigarette? You know, maybe not. You may have invented tobacco. But the point is, it was probably for the insecticide, not for a person.
David Sandstrom 40:38
Yeah, natural natural bug killer or something like that.
Dr. Marc DiNola 40:41
Anyway, I guess, you know, I like to keep things light when in my office, I can be serious, but I also keep things light and have rock and roll on and you know, nice music and things and, but the bottom line is what you do every day, and then also how often you you eat is a key thing that people are missing, giving our GI a little break. You know, getting it to parasympathetics helps for detoxification, and I think we're always feeding that tube and we need to back off, I think you probably recommend intermittent fasting or time-delayed eating. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. So those are those are the fun things I talk about with patient. I mean, I don't charge to talk about it. Just I like to talk about those things. And with people.
David Sandstrom 41:24
That's really cool. Yeah, your passion comes through, I can see that I'm sure you have a lot of loyal patients.
Dr. Marc DiNola 41:28
Thank you. Yeah. Well, I want to be a dentist since I was eight years old. And then when I found out about mercury, I was really upset. And then I turn turn that around, you know?
David Sandstrom 41:39
Well, thank you for doing what you're doing. You're doing a great work. And boy, there's a lot of people that need what you do for sure. So if someone wanted to come see you, Dr. Mark, how can they what's the best way to get ahold of you?
Dr. Marc DiNola 41:50
Yeah, I have a website, MDdentalwellness.com. And of course, if you look up a holistic dentist in your area, that would be a way to or biological dentists would be a way to find somebody, but in my practices in Laval, Maryland, which is Western Maryland, like two hours from Pittsburgh, two hours from DC, Baltimore and about, you know, do we're due east of Morgantown, about 70 miles from Morgantown, kind of sitting in the middle.
David Sandstrom 42:21
I'm guessing you have clients come from a long distance to come
Dr. Marc DiNola 42:24
down. I'm trying to be humble about that fact. But I mean, it's, it's the people told me when I become a biological dentist, people will drive to see you and I didn't think that that was thought okay. Yeah, maybe. But I have a map, you know, a pegboard that my staff got me with pegs from different places that people have come from. So you know, it is it is? Yeah, it's beautiful thing. I mean, we have hotels around and, and Bed and Breakfast, and that kind of thing.
David Sandstrom 42:52
What's the farthest somebody's driven to come see you?
Dr. Marc DiNola 42:55
Oh, I had someone from well, from the West Coast. We've had several people from the west coast. But yeah, it's it's just, you know, it's I just tried to be I like again, I tried to refer if it's inconvenient, but I can't do that. I can't do everything for everybody. And I trained under Dr. volts. Dr. volts is a dentist in Switzerland and he says he can't do it. He just wants to teach people how to do it. So we're trying to train biological dentist. I mean, this is the way it should be done anyway.
David Sandstrom 43:25
Yeah, yeah. Excellent. All right, Dr. Mark, I really enjoyed this conversation. I think people are gonna get a lot out of it. I really appreciate you sharing your time and your wisdom. Thank you. Thank you. For more, go to the show notes page at davidsandstrom.com forward/82. There you can find links to all the resources that we mentioned, as well as a free downloadable transcript. And I always include some type of a content upgrade to help you go deeper with that episode. That's it for now. Thank you for listening, and I'll talk with you next week. Be blessed