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Tim James 0:00
Every one has anywhere if everybody listening if unless you're eating, you know sprouts your whole life, you you have like six to 12 pounds of impacted fecal material and mucoid plaques lining the small and large intestine. The colon is full of he said, Tim, you got 10 pounds of crap and a five pound bag. And if you ever want to be healthy, truly healthy, you got to clean that stuff up. You know, so I alluded it to like taking care of a car or a tractor if it's not running well, you got these check body lights on or check engine lights, right? You're overweight, you're fatigued, you're night sweats. Your elbows are got psoriasis or eczema. I'm like I did your poop and blood. You know you're on medications. These are all checked body lights. You have aches and pains. That's your body telling you hey, hey, I'm giving you a sensor here. be intelligent, send your controller we need new inputs, you need to change your environment. But I didn't know about this stuff.

David Sandstrom 0:50
Welcome to the Natural Health Matters podcast where it's all about maximizing your health potential, so that you can look and feel your best at any age. I'm your host, David Sandstrom, Naturopathic Doctor and Biblical Health Coach. And this is episode number 79.

David Sandstrom 1:09
Today we have in the show, Tim James. Tim is a passionate health coach. He's the host of the Health Hero Show podcast. He's the founder of chemical free body, which is a mission based organization that helps people ignite their highest excitement in life by putting themselves in their health first, Tim, Welcome to Natural Health Matters.

Tim James 1:29
David, thanks for having me on. And, and thanks for the listeners to tune in my goal, as always, is to just give you guys one gold nugget that resonates with you that you can actually take from this theory on the show today and actually put it into practice and get results in your own life and your family's life. So thanks. Thanks so much for having me on this opportunity.

David Sandstrom 1:48
It's my pleasure. I've listened to a couple episodes of your podcast, I think it's great, by the way. And I can tell that we're very like minded in that we're open to solid ideas, not just alternative ideas to the medical profession, but ideas that can be backed up with science. So I really like your approach. So tell us your background. Tell us a little bit about how you became the Health Hero.

Tim James 2:08
Well, um, I actually grew up over in Eastern Oregon on a cattle and hay farm, we raised Herford cattle. We did grass and alfalfa hay, had a big garden. It was a lot of work, but a lot of fun. Remember my mom actually, we put a bunch of raspberries up and then she put even more of them up my senior year in high school because she wanted me to have everything you know, be able to afford a Letterman's jacket and that kind of stuff. So I literally grew up on a dirt road pretty poor. And give my mom a shout out for all that I helped her out and we picked a lot of berries so that I could have nice pants and shoes and a Letterman's jacket, my see. So that was really nice. And I just loved growing up out in the country. I was up in the mountains all the time picking mushrooms. I actually played baseball the high level and I remember getting up it actually put myself through college cutting firewood so I ran a little ad in the local paper and read first split and delivered $80 a cord. I'd cut wood in the morning before baseball practice. And then after baseball practice at night, I'd cut it again like in the dark with with headlights on. And I learned a lot about life and that kind of stuff. But I was just out in nature all the time. And I was hunting and fishing with my buddies and and I was I was on the standard American diet. And that worked okay for me when I was young and I was running around all the time. And it hadn't had time to destroy me from the inside out yet. But after I got out of you know playing baseball and all that stuff. I was a financial advisor. I found myself at age 37 with gas and bloating and I had acid reflux really bad I was eating Tums and Rolaids like 24/7 I had them all over the place my car, my truck, my office, my home. And and then I started I you know I basically gained 42 pounds of excess weight. That sucked. And then I had eczema on big patch of eczema starting on my left knee and then it spread to my elbows. So this was really frustrating because it would look you look like salamander man and you would it would crack and bleed. And it was very painful. And as a financial adviser I couldn't even wear white shirts anymore because I would stain them so bad. Or you know because the blood was bleed dude. I was like bleeding all the time was like every day my arms and knees was cracking and bleeding so I started with pretty severe Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't fun. It's painful to you know, yeah. But what I noticed from that is that you know, not so much the weight gain because like everybody else was gaining weight too. But it was the the skin issues and I had another skin issue on my shoulder it was just like these fat things bubbling up and it was just weird and I had to have a doctor squirts and cortisone or something in there some steroid or something and ate it all up and it shrank and kind of made a dent and was purple and, and then later, you know six months later, it's like three more were bumps of it growing out around it. And I'm like, what if this happens on my face? Right? So yeah, you start thinking about these things because it's like, Well, I hate I hate needles, dude, I didn't even like getting shots at all, especially like just anything like that. And so that was that was happening and I just wasn't feeling good. I had no energy, I had mental fog, I finally got out of the gym when we moved across town because I didn't have my buddies to plug into i didn't have that accountability piece. And basically, the only exercise I was getting was walking my dogs because they couldn't walk themselves. So I forced myself out of bed in the morning to walk the dogs. Other than that, I would just I went from this, this high energy athlete to this person that was just imploding. And my universe was like shrinking. I wasn't a type person, but I didn't want to take my shirt off at the beach because I was self conscious. And so like I said, My world was shrinking wasn't fun, I didn't feel good. And I just, you know, I tried high protein, low protein, high fat, low fat, high carb, low carb, five meals a day, I was trying all kinds of stuff. Actually even tried juicing at one point, but I was juicing carrots and beets and apples. And so I've just loaded myself before

David Sandstrom 6:09
Most people that do juicing, they started out that way. And it's probably probably doing them more harm than good.

Tim James 6:13
good days. I mean, it tasted delicious, but I'm like, I don't want to clean the damn juicer because I didn't I didn't lose a pound. Yeah, I think it might be I gained two pounds. So that was my my life. You know, every year again, 2-3-4 pounds and my health was going down the gutter, and then it got worse. And I started bleeding rectally. So every time I pooped, blood would come out. And for those of you that are listening, you can't see us but I have a shirt on that says love when you poop. And, and it's because my life wasn't fun. It wasn't fun, like on a scale of one to 10 going number two was, you know, one not painful and 10 extreme pain, you know, just shoot me. I was a six or a seven man. I mean, it was just like, every day two, three times a day, just this extreme amount of pain fall by blood, and blood started coming out. So you know, I go to my doctor and you know, all these things, my acid reflux, they want to put me on trial, a sack of appellees medications and those things just sounded like aliens to me. I never did that stuff. I just, I'm like, Dude, I'm not putting something in my body. I can't even spell it. Like, you know these long words and right, it just didn't seem right. To me. It was probably one of the best decisions I've ever made. But I didn't know how to get better. And even though I really wanted to write I really wanted to get better. So then the icing on the cake here for my health issues is I was on a trip down to Northern Peru, this place called Toon Base. My wife at the time was from Peru. Her dad had been a medical doctor ran a big clinic in Lima, Peru, and he had never taken a vacation and over 30 years of work, never Oh, he just frickin workaholic. This is his first vacation. So we get down there in about two, three days into the vacation. All of a sudden, I'm in pain. I'm doubled up in pain. He's like, we got to get you to the hospital. And I missed the one plane flight out of that town by 30 minutes is on and he's like, we can't wait. So they rented a van. And in the middle of the night, they drove me on this bumpy road down the coastline of Peru to a town called pura six hours of bumps on the road, every single bump out, wow for six hours sweating bullets, we finally get to the hospital. I'm exhausted. And I'm sitting in a third world country on the examination table with bugs flying around me. He's had them dope me up and they put me on a commercial plane flight which you're not supposed to do. But he didn't want to have the surgery there. He wanted his surgeon so he's on the phone coordinating the surgery. I take the plane flight and I get into a taxi and they take me out of the taxi literally put me on a gurney into surgery I want to and I spent the rest of my vacation recovering from having an organ removed. And you know what I learned from that experience was is that my poor health doesn't affect just me It affects everybody else around me. I destroyed that vacation not just for myself but for my wife, her dad who had you know, here he is on his vacation in the hospital basically looking after me. Ridiculous right?

David Sandstrom 6:58
So what do you ever do? Was it your gallbladder you had to move to what was it?

Tim James 9:10
that? My I had my appendix removed. And you know, a lot of people were like, Oh, the appendix it's like BS the God put your appendix in there. It's there for a frickin reason. Okay. It's an regulator of the gut bacteria, which is a massive major part of our immune system. So it's one of the most important organs in the body. If we didn't need it, it wouldn't be there in the first place. I don't have one anymore. But I still didn't know what to do. So my wife literally wheelchairs me back into the United States as I'm recovering. Now, fast forward another few years now my best friend Charles, at age 43. He gets diagnosed with this supposedly uncurable blood cancer chronic lymphocytic leukemia, so I'm going oh, great. Here I go again. I'm gonna lose another friend. I think you know, he's like, Tim, I want to live I want to see Charlie graduate, his oldest son or son was 14 at the time. Markets played together. And he's like, I want to go to father suddenly can Oregon State University we have this all planned out, and I want to live and I'm thinking you're toast, like everybody that I know have got cancer, they die. He said, Hey, I'm gonna go to the Hippocrates Health Institute in West Palm Beach, Florida, and it's like a natural detox healing clinic. They got like fresh foods, and

David Sandstrom 10:19
I've been there. I used to live right down the street from there. Oh, on skis road. Okay. Yeah, that's keys road. Yeah, I was I lived in Wellington,

Tim James 10:26
You know, doctors Brian and Annamaria. Clement. Absolutely. Yes. I know. Oh, wow. Well, no one else much healthy background. And you got a good good base there. Yeah. So yeah, I'd never been to a place like that. And I'm still thinking I question everything, man. I'm just like, how could this Podunk place in Florida help people with cancer? I mean, we're spending billions of dollars in Race for the Cure and all this stuff, and we have our best minds at it. And it's just, uh, you know, it seems like it's a conundrum. Nobody can figure it out. But whatever. I'm gonna support my buddy. So I went there, just like I always do. And I have a notepad. And I started taking notes and I'm rocking. I'm walking around that place questioning everything. I'm because, you know, in supporting my buddy, making sure he's doing all the things, but I'm going through the whole thing myself. Like, I'm in the program. I'm doing the system. I did it with it. Okay. Yeah, I did it with him. So I remember I got massive health issues, okay. I'm, I'm a frickin mess. And, you know, so but I'm in denial, probably because I'm a little bit because guy, one thing that I've learned is that, you know, just kind of fast forwarding give away the story. But I've had over 5500 people to my home for detox, nutrition, and dinner classes, and 70% of those are women. So what I've learned in this process is that women are smarter than men, because I know what I've learned and what we've accomplished with my health and with 1000s of other people's health around the world. And with Charles's health, what we're finished his story is that women just get it. I mean, they just get it and they're just smarter is a little bit like guys are a little bit more slow on the uptake for this kind of stuff. So no doubt about it. That's anyway I show up at this place. And they basically just put us on a bunch of purified restructure water, we're doing wheatgrass shots twice a day, these big green juices that are half sunflower and pea sprout juice, like literally, it's a living juice and the other 50% is cucumber, celery, you're slugging these things down, and you're eating a bunch of sprouts, sunflower sprouts, pea sprouts, buckwheat, lettuce, alfalfa sprouts, red clover, sprouts, radish, sprouts, vegetables, avocados, you know, just just a bunch of fresh stuff in the veget vegetables. They had the three acre garden there, and they're growing a lot of the vegetables on the 50 acre premise. Right? So you've been there. It's beautiful, right?

David Sandstrom 12:34
Yeah. And go there for lunch. I never I never went to the whole facility, you know, whole program, but I would go there for lunch.

David Sandstrom 12:40
Yeah, and it's just a big frickin sprout salad thing. But it's delicious, right? It's incredible. And it really is amazing. You know, the people that work there for 1020 years, they looked about 1020 years younger than the rest of the population. I mean, they look frickin good. And so he does his class, and he starts talking about, you know, taking care of the inside of your body, the gut, and he explains from the time you eat food, what happens all the way through your digestive tract until it exits the body. And that was a really eye opening class. But what he was trying to tell us was the average person now for those of you listening to a really listen to this, everyone has anywhere if everybody listening, if unless you're eating, you know, sprouts your whole life, you have like six to 12 pounds of impacted fecal material and mucoid plaques lining the small and large intestine, the colon is full of he said, Tim, you got 10 pounds of crap and a five pound bag. And if you ever want to be healthy, truly healthy, you got to clean that stuff up. You know, so I alluded it to like taking care of a car or a tractor. If it's not running well, you got these check body lights on or check engine lights, right? You're overweight, you're fatigued, you're night sweats. Your elbows are got psoriasis or eczema. I'm like I did your pooping blood. You know you're on medications. These are all check body lights, you have aches and pains. That's your body telling you, hey, hey, I'm giving you a sensor here, be intelligent, send your controller, we need new inputs, you need to change your environment. But I didn't know about this stuff. Right? Because society is steeped in misinformation. So we have to take complete control of our health. And that's what I learned at that deal. So he's very convincing, but I'm like he is trying to get us to do what's called a colon hydrotherapy session to clean out the colon. Are you familiar with that process?

David Sandstrom 14:23
I am? Yes, I am

Tim James 14:25
Okay, so cool. So for those listening that didn't know because I didn't you basically set on a tube rectally. And water gently goes in and out of your colonic cleans your colon. It's really no big deal. It's pretty awesome, actually. And then the doctors like Oh, and by the way over easily over 50% of you have parasites and not just the the hook worms, the tapeworms and the pinworms that you see in your stool, but these microscopic parasites that are eating your food, drinking your drinks, urinating and defecating and you creating tremendous amounts of acidity, and having sex and laying 1000s of eggs in you? And I'm just like, No, it's like, deer in the headlights when he said this stuff. You know, you And then he's like now this is a person that's been on the Hippocrates lifestyle and then went in their colon. And you could see the colon was like pink and the blood vessels in there and there were still wastewater coming out. But the terrain, the terrain, David was completely different. Not even close. And that's when I got it. And I stood up in the middle of class and went over and I started signing up on the signup sheet to get the colon hydrotherapy. And he's like, Tim, you will do that after class. And I'm like, No, I'm doing it right now. I'm gonna be the first one. I couldn't wait to get this crap out of me, literally.

David Sandstrom 15:30
So a picture is was worth 1000 words, right?

Tim James 15:32
Yeah, dude sold, I'm in. I'm like, That's it, I gotta clean it up. This makes sense to me. So the next day, I go in, they weigh me. I do the colon hydrotherapy thing. And then an hour later, they weigh me again, when it's done. And I dropped 10 pounds of impacted fecal material in one one hour session. Now again, the average is six to 12 the record at the time, that could be broken by then I don't know if somebody came in and broke the record, but one lady had dropped 27 pounds of impacted font and gunk and junk that had accumulated in her colon in one of these colon hydrotherapy sessions. Wow. So thinking about that, dude, that's the size of like a medium dog falling out of your butt.

David Sandstrom 16:12
So what if someone has that kind of gut, and the lining of the gut is a lot like the skin, it protects the body from the outside world. So a lot of times people have gut issues, they have skin issues. So let's say this person has psoriasis. And they go to the doctor, the doctor, what does he do? He prescribes a cream, lotion, maybe an anti inflammatory pill, when all the while completely ignoring the root cause of her ailments?

Tim James 16:37
Yeah, absolutely. And we've we found that out skin issues are either gut issues or lung issues. And people are having breathing issues where the skin will breathe. It does what it can. So you're absolutely right. So what happens is you have to understand it's about changing the internal terrain.And the problem is you can't see it. We take really good care of our hair we put on our makeup, you know, we look good on the outside, we put on our skirt or blouse, we get ready to go or for guys suit and tie. we comb our hair, shave, you know, all tightened up and we go out look great. But what about the inside, you can't see it. And that's the problem out of sight out of mind. You might be OCD and your kitchens, immaculate but nine times out of 10. I put my finger across the top of the refrigerators, bunch of dust up there, right? You can't see it. And that's the problem. So we try to bring awareness to gut health. And that's what they did to me. So what happens is, is when you have like six to 12 pounds of this funk and gunk and junk in there, you're creating a very, in the Standard American Diet creates a high acid, low oxygen environment, which is the perfect breeding ground for the perfect terrain for viruses, bacteria, mold, yeast, fungus, parasites, the worms and mutagens cancer, right? They love that stuff. When we went to pocket is what were they doing? They were changing our internal terrain by cleaning us up with the colon hydrotherapy, enemas, wheatgrass shots, all this stuff. They put us on the highest alkaline highest oxygen lifestyle terrain you could possibly have. And when you change the terrain, guess what? The viruses, the bacteria, the mold, the yeast, the fungus, the parasites, the cancer. The median is they pack their beds and they leave because it's inhospitable. It's like putting a polar bear in in West Palm Beach, Florida. He's like, let me out here. It's too hot. I want to go back to the North Pole. Charles and I are after being there for about seven days. It was hell. Okay. The first because we're doing a detox man. I come off the standard American diet. I had night sweats. I was irritable. I had metallic taste on my tongue as these heavy metals were coming out. I just wanted to go to bed and they said on the fourth or fifth day, you're gonna wake up and you're gonna feel 2030 years better. I said, please be tomorrow. I don't want to do one more day of this. I woke up Thursday morning. I felt amazing. I looked at Charles. I said, Do you feel as good as I do? He's like, Yeah, I said, Dude, my mental clarity is amazing. My arms are tingling with energy. I feel like I'm 18 years old. I'm like, I can't believe I'm gonna say this. You're gonna heal. I'm going to do this whole thing with you. I'm gonna give up all meat except for bacon. We're gonna go back home and that's exactly what we did. We started growing sprouts and juicing and doing all these things at home. And in two and a half years Charles had with the lifestyle, no chemo, no surgery, no radiation. He healed himself of this chronic lymphocytic leukemia himself right in front of my face like my friend did this. And I supported him by doing the lifestyle to what happened to me. In 60 days I dropped the 42 pounds. The eczema on both of my elbows and the skin issue on my shoulder gone 60 days, the big patch of eczema my knee took eight months because it was quite large and thick had been there for years. My ribs I just dropped the weight my energies back. It was dude it was crazy. And and I've been trying to tell people about this stuff ever since it's just getting the manmade garbage and toxic chemicals out of the body intracellularly the blood the fat, the muscle tissue, the gut, and flooding the body with good nutrient nutrients and food and fresh things and guess What the body heals. That's just what happens, right?

David Sandstrom 20:02
Our bodies know how to heal. And that's basically the naturopathic approach to health and wellness is that give the body more of what it wants and less of what it doesn't want. And the body knows what to do. It will heal and thrive, right? It's just amazing

Tim James 20:15
Yeag you guys will be like me if you do this, you'd be like, I looked at Charles. And we do, we've discovered the fountain of youth. I'm like, literally, this is what everybody's looking for. I dropped like 11 pounds, the first seven days that I was there, I felt better. I felt years. And we just never looked back man never looked back.

David Sandstrom 20:29
That's awesome. Great story. Really, I love it. Really good stuff. Alright, so you now have a health coaching practice. And you talk about four core secrets that you teach your coaching clients. So let's talk about those four core premises.

Tim James 20:42
Yeah, absolutely. So originally, I had you know, like I said, I had 5500 people to my, these raw food, educational juicing dinner classes, right. And I sold a lot of juicers for the juicing companies, because we made fresh juice for people. The problem was is that after 3060 90 days, those juices were underneath the cupboard, and people weren't using them anymore. Why? I went out and asked him, I said, you saw what happened to Charles, you saw what happened to my health? Why aren't you doing this? Well, I'm too busy, I don't have enough money to run that much produce to the juicer. And the bottom line was I don't want to clean the darn juicer. That's what we got. So I went back to the drawing board and I came up with three things I was like, what could people do, from what I've learned that they could do would be the easiest to do, but give the most results like the simplest thing that most profound results, we came up with these three things, and I added a fourth one layer, we call them our core four secrets. And the first one core secret number one is drinking half your body weight and liquid ounces of purified water daily. So if you're a 200 pound person, that's 100 ounces a day, if you're 100 pound person, that's 50 ounces a day, if you live in an hot, arid, dry climate and you're an athlete or both, you might need a little bit more. Okay, this would count as water, caffeine free teas, flax waters, these types of thing coconut water, you know, if it's not like pasteurized and a bottle or something like that fresh off the tree, that kind of stuff. That's what we're talking about here. Now, if you're on city tap water, I do have to say this, you need to restructure your water because city tap water goes through this high pressure pipes and those water molecules was four to five clusters get into like 20 to 25 cluster. And when you drink it, it just goes through you and you pee it out a lot. It's it gets too big. It's like a bowling ball trying to go through a chain link fence. The bowling ball is the water molecule and the chain link fence is the intestinal lining. Right? So it needs to be restructured. So it's really small like sand, and then it can get through the intestinal lining that is a huge one. But that's really important and less than 5% of the population is doing it. And the first place the body goes this is why it's so important for water is the colon. So if you're low on water in your bloodstream, or your lymphatic system or your brain, the first place your body's gonna go to get it is the colon. And this is why if 95% of people are not drinking enough water, they're colons dehydrated. And that's where that combined with a processed or irradiated pasteurized foods, the box the cans, the stuff in the you know, in the jars, it starts accumulating like layers of paint on a wall. And that's how that you know, 10 to 12 pounds of impact of fecal material gets in the colon over time. So drinking water is the first step to reversing this process. And getting hydrated water is the lubricant of life. It's amazing. Your brains 80% water, even your bones are 22% water, and we're just not drinking enough of it. And more often today than ever with all the amounts of pollution, we have the environmental pollution, we need lots of water, clean water flowing through our veins and capillaries in our tissues to push out the toxins that are bio accumulating from the air we breathe and the water we drink in the in the food we eat. Yes. So that's core secret number one. Of course secret number two is chewing your food until liquefied is a big deal. Mom was right, you should choose your food, less than 4% of the population is doing this. So we've got massive rooms for improvement here. Now why do you want to do this because when you chew, not only are you masticating that food your mouth is the juicer. Basically, it's a great juicer that I want to sell you on basically. And you are secreting enzymes, you have two ducts in your upper mouth and four in the lower mouth excrete these enzymes, amylase and lipase and these are what breaks down your fats and your starches. And your stomach. So you load your food with these enzymes in your mouth and then they go down into your stomach and in the stomach. Those enzymes then break down and digest your food. Now for those thinking, Well, what about protein in your stomach, you have hydrochloric acid and another substance called pepsin. That will break down the proteins. So that one's pretty handled. Just chew your food well. And from Dr. Gabriel cousins, we've learned that when you masticate and chew your food really well, you're actually stimulating meridian points in the teeth that will uptake now hold your hat on this one. Even though Dave I see you don't have a hat on. Dave has for those of you listening Dave has a wonderful head of hair too. He's a good looking guy. And but think about listen to this. It's crazy. You like when you when you chew your food? Well, you upregulate your serotonin by up to 500%. That's the happy juice. Think about all the people with anxiety and depression that are trying to take a pill or do all this stuff. Nothing on the market can give you more happy juice than just chewing your food.

David Sandstrom 25:16
So that is amazing. I've never heard that before. So you're saying it's through stimulating energy meridians in the teeth?

Tim James 25:23
Yes, yes. Yeah. And Dr. Gabriel cousins is no joke. He's skies like 80. And he can do like 30 Pull up, you know, the guy's the epitome of health. He's in his 80s. And he can, he does yoga every morning for an hour, hour and a half. And, you know, he can bend over and work in a field and do what he needs to do. So there are a lot of examples of people out there. I mean, I can't even do 30 Pull ups the dudes 80. It's amazing. It's crazy. It's crazy. So anyway, next, next secret core secret number three, avoid liquids with meals. Now that you're chewing your food really well, you've loaded your food with all these enzymes. Why would you want to avoid liquids with meals? Well, because if you eat drink, purified restructured water, or wine, or beer, or apple juice or whatever, you're going to dilute those enzymes, you work so hard to put in your stomach, and you're going to go from digestion and assimilation of nutrients to fermentation and gut rot, gently rotting out the inside lining of the intestinal tract. Those little hair-like structures called intestinal villi, then are basically in a fermentation state or soup. And you're destroying that lining. And believe me, if you want to have beautiful healthy skin, ladies, then you want to have a beautiful healthy intestinal lining, you want to take really good care of those intestinal villi. If we all do that, that's why I get so many comments on my skin and I'm 48 years old, I get more comments now about my skin. I mean people, they freak out, I started talking about kids and sharing stories and stuff. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm 21 year old and 19 year old and people look at me, they're like, What? How old are you? And I'm like, I'm 48. And they're like, no, no, people don't believe it. I become one of those people at Hippocrates now, right? That's all look 10-15-20 years younger, because I understand how the body works now. And one of those things that I understood was is you avoid liquids with meals. And if you go back to your way back in the day, you know, we would walk for we were nomadic, we walk for days, we wouldn't even eat. That's why fasting works so good. We're programmed that way. And then we'd find one food source monolithically, like the ancestors of cabbage or spinach or in the fall berries or whatever. But we eat one food. And then we you know, there wasn't always a creek right by the berries. Right? So then you'd walk a while, and then you get something to drink, right? This is why you don't you don't want to dilute those digestive juices, less than 2% of the population is doing this. So how do you do it? Rule of thumb wait about an hour before you start eating, stop drinking liquids and then wait two hours after you're done eating, and then drink a lot of liquids again, real simple, easy to do. You're going to have a little pushback from waiters because they're going to try to shove liquids on the I tell them all the time like no water. No thanks. They look at me like a dog with their head turns I was What do you mean, you don't want water? making your life easier. You don't have to pack the water to me. But they half the time they bring it anyway. Right? So anyway, that is a very profound thing. And then the last one is core secret number four, is doing some breath work before you eat. Now why would you want to do this? Well, would you agree that we live in a stressed out society? Yes. Absolutely. And then throw the COVID Nightmare on top of it with all this fear based stuff going on. And there's less stress out there for people over the top stress. Yeah, so here's the deal when you're stressed out even if you don't think you are your nervous system is and it still thinks that darn saber toothed tigers chasing or a bear. When that happens, you're in fight or flight mode. When you're in fight or flight mode, the blood leaves the organ systems and goes to the extremities, the arms, legs, hands and feet to fight or flight to run get the heck out of there. So you're not going to digest your food well, because your gut doesn't have blood, the blood supply needs simply by taking a big deep breath in through the nose like this. Pause at the top and then release out to the mouth. Just a nice long, slow flow, just let it all go. pause at the bottom with empty lungs. And then back into the nose. suspend the breath and hold and then release. Again, just forgetting about all your worries and everything you got to do your agenda and just focus and get calm. And then really when you keep doing that breath work, but think about how grateful you are for the food in front of you the people that you're with in your life and just just get in that that gratitude state. You calm the nervous system down you go into rest and digest mode and all that blood rushes back into the organ system so you can truly digest your food. Now here's a cool deal. 1% of the population is doing this that means that 99% of you listening are not and you have major exciting room for health improvement coming now these things are awesome. You How do I know they work because I've been implementing them. And I'm not like perfect. I mean, I, I It's funny because like, I know when I'm not doing some I'm like, I'm not doing my food as well as I should. But I tell you what I went from like a one or two eat like Garfield to I'm probably an eight nine or 10 on that scale every time chewing my food now. So it's a process that's we ship our

David Sandstrom 30:22
I want to I want to add one thing to the to the to the rest and digest in the parasympathetic nervous system before meal. I would add prayer, because when we when we get into a grateful state that promotes the parasympathetic nervous system and will aid in digestion, so just I'm just gonna throw that in

Tim James 30:36
Absolutely you can you can just pray your prayer way to better health, there's no question about it, no question about it. And that's a great point. So those are the four core secrets, we know they work. We ship products worldwide, and because of the delays with COVID, like when we shipped to Ireland or Australia, dude, we're getting emails daily, like daily from people going, Oh, my gas and bloating is improving. My energy is up, I'm sleeping better. And they don't even have the products yet. And when we ask why that's the core four secrets, they're doing 1-2-3 Or they're stacking all four of these together, and they're getting massive results, we believe that this is the foundation to health, and three of them are free. The only one that would be an investment probably is getting your water cleaned up and restructure. It is a pretty good sized investment. But there's still big levels,

David Sandstrom 30:37
I'll make sure that we put a link in the show notes to that website where we can get the structured water for Danocha. Yeah, for sure. We'll do that. So most people listening people in the national nation for sure, are concerned about their immune systems these days, we've got viruses out there, we've got you know, it's not just viruses either, right? It's it's bacteria, it's fungi, it's all kinds of things. But our immune systems are generally up to the task, but a lot of times they're overwhelmed. So how would you suggest people strengthen their immune systems today?

Tim James 31:53
Well, I think number one would be turn off the news, you know, stop living in fear. You don't have to live in fear you have, you have something called the immune system. And unfortunately, the medical community's view of the immune system is 100 to 60 years at best an old view, they're looking at it as the innate and the adaptive immune system. And for those of you where that those words just flew over your head, don't worry, because I know a lot of this stuff was flying over my head too, right? These are very, these are new terms, possibly. But basically, the immune system now is we the modern view of the immune system is the innate, the adaptive, something called the interferon system that welcomes in once viruses and bacteria so that it can become more resilient and stronger, where we can take a hit, and we come back stronger. That's how the human body works. You want to build muscle, you do some resistance, you do some push ups, you do the resistance, the body takes a hit, it builds strong muscles that comes back stronger. Herd immunity is an example. People know, you want kids pick up colds and flus. They're boosting and building their immune system right for to carry them for the rest of their life. We also have the gut microbiome. That's why we want to take really good care of our digestive tract and make sure we have all these soil based micro organisms in ourselves like raw sauerkraut and kimchi fermented foods taking probiotics, prebiotics, enzymes, these types of things. And then, and then the brain, the brain access. So we've got this really intelligent system, our body and this really intelligent immune system. So to boost it one thing that we've learned that a lot of people are not talking about, and that's why I, what I'm going to share with you right now is why I called my company chemical free body, and why we started chemical free body.com I started reading literature, and I found and everybody can do this when the show's over, type these three words into your browser, umbilical cord, and chemical, umbilical cord and chemical and you'll see the studies that I saw going back to 2005, where every single child being born and young mother, they tested the umbilical cord blood looking for 400 toxic chemicals. And they found 250 David of what they were looking for 71% of what they were looking for they found and 180 those cause cancer in humans and 212 cause developmental and brain disorders. Our children are born polluted again. It's the no-see-ums and I sat back in my chair and I was like, Oh my God, we're all polluted.

David Sandstrom 34:22
Trajic. It's absolutely tragic.

Tim James 34:23
We are all polluted. And the older we are the more time we've had to bio accumulate these toxins in the air we breathe the food we drink that, or the food we eat makeups skincare, shampoos, all this stuff. Like think about this. If your toothpaste is harmful if swallowed, please contact the poison control center. Why are you putting it in your mouth? Look at your frickin labels, right like I did this right? And then they taught me that sodium lauryl sulfate is a known cancer causer but it's in most shampoos and soaps because it's a suffocate that creates fun because people like foamy things to clean with. I come home. I looked at my shampoo, sodium lauryl sulfate first ingredient dang it I went to my shampoo toothpaste. harmful if swallowed, contact the poison control center, darn it. So anyway, my point is, is that you have to be a steward of what goes in your mouth and on your skin. Because whether you eat it or put it on your skin, you're still eating, it's still going into your body, through the skin, through the transdermal air. So it's very important to read ingredients, never look at the front of the package, read the ingredients. And if you can't pronounce it, or don't understand it, don't buy it. And a rule of thumb for putting things on your skin is if you can't eat it, then don't put it on your skin. It's that simple. If it's not edible, you shouldn't put it on your skin. That's it.

David Sandstrom 35:38
Yeah, you know, I want to I want to point out living and growing up in South Florida, people would just load this toxic sunscreen on your skin. So when I come come to learn about how the weed like you said, the skin is permeable, and it goes directly into the bloodstream through the skin. For instance, you might go if you're doing hormone replacement, the doctor might give you a patch to put on your skin and you will absorb hormones into your system through that patch. Well the same is true with anything we put on a skin, whether it's body lotion, so sunscreen, you name it, you moisturizers. So if you do if you absorb toxins, that way, you'd be better off eating them because at least if you ate it, your digestive system would have a chance to break it down with the enzymes you have you mentioned earlier, go to the liver get filtered out kidneys, and by the time it ended up in the bloodstream, it will be at least broken down some when it goes through the skin. It goes right into the bloodstream intact, which makes it even worse.

Tim James 36:31
Yeah, I learned this and I knew these guys weren't BS me because you think it's kind of woowoo but when I was like probably 1314 My buddy Mike McKinnon grown up, he was a like, kind of like a rodeo star and he had quarter horses and you know, we had farms next to each other and we were taking care of his horse had an injury and he put some DMSO on the horse and I was doing it and I got one drop of that stuff like um, the back of my hand. And dude within like 30 seconds, I could taste it in my mouth. Yeah, like very strong. So I realized that that point in time, it's like stuff that goes on your skin. It's going in your frickin body. And like you said, you don't have a liver to filter. It's direct uptake into the bloodstream. Yep. So anyway, my point is, is we have all these toxic chemicals inside of us. Where are they coming from, we have to be stewards, we have to read labels are buying dollars is where we truly still have a vote today, like so I stopped buying from these toxic companies that are polluting our body, my body, your children's body and the planet. And I started looking for companies that really were into this stuff that were supporting me, my family and our kids and our planet. And we just redirect the money. Now the bigger corporations will either come along or they'll go away I don't care. But the bottom line is is that we control but as long as we go out and we're buying you know Crest toothpaste and you know putting glade air fresheners in and poison our or the air, we're that stuff is bio accumulating, hitting the mucous membrane going into our digestive tract and accumulating overtime every day. 20,000 breaths a day of accumulation, and all the water and the food we're eating. And it builds up and that's where we're at today. So to boost the immune system. Water so important. Getting your air clean is very important. cracking your windows at night even the snowstorm make sure you've got fresh air these these what are they called? Energy efficient? Alright, the green home, accelerating your you're getting into a coffin basically, is what they're doing because these are 100 times more toxic than downtown pollution in LA where else you get formaldehyde. Well,

David Sandstrom 38:30
your car, maybe I need that new car smell is mostly formaldehyde. So it's chemicals.

Tim James 38:35
Yeah, it's like it's even in some of these. What are they called? The morticians are telling us that the older people that have been on the standard American diet that have consumed a lot of genetically modified foods, breathe in carpet, all these things. They're kind of already embalmed. Right? Yeah, hear what I'm saying? Like I don't have to put much embalming fluid in and they were already kind of in bombed.

David Sandstrom 38:59
detoxing our homes is a great idea to think about the air we breathe, think about the body care products we use and all that kind of thing. But the truth of the matter is, we can't ever completely avoid toxins, we're gonna have them, they were gonna get exposed. We need to detox from them. One of the best ways to do that is through intermittent fasting. And I know you're a fan of intermittent fasting. So with the time we have left, could you touch on that topic for just a little bit?

Tim James 39:21
Yeah, so again, it goes back to the nomadic folks. And you know, we would walk for two or three days we wouldn't eat and that would give our body a chance to clean itself our digestive tract or trans to rest, our body would clean up all the dead cells regenerate itself. And that's why fasting is so powerful, right? It just works. So just to give people some guidelines and kind of how to start this I have a whole episode on fasting on my podcast they can listen to it's one of the earlier episodes I would did a lot of one on one stuff went deep on these topics. But if you're like okay, fasting scares me just thinking about it, right? It's just missing a meal. It's because there's a lot of emotion Shanell stuff going on from childhood. You know, after coaching over 600 people through this process, it was really daunting to me to find out that 50 to 60% of the people that I coached, were molested as a child, un frickin believable. I couldn't believe how much of this stuff was going on. And 80% of the time it was from a family member was just, I just, I just got numb to it. I just I couldn't believe it was happening, right? This is like me, boots on the ground seeing this stuff. It could be a death that you never got over something tragic. Well, whether you know it or not consciously or subconsciously, it's there. And these emotions are always trying to come up and heal, but we're using food as the dope to push them back down and we don't know it. So there's emotional stuff going on. And then you have these chemical companies and you know, these big corporations that are putting all this crap and food to make you highly addictive. They're putting opiate derivatives and children's cereal today, they don't have to put it on the label to further addictive even more than the high fructose corn syrup. All these super sugars are putting it it's really diabolical, what's going on. So we have all this stuff going against the stress we the additives, the extra additives to make us further addicted and the emotional stress. So this is why people have such a hard time thinking about fasting because it scares them. So what we do is we'd like to gently walk people into if you're not type two diabetic, anorexic or bulimic, then what we want you to do is replace breakfast with liquid nourishment. And that's where you would drink you know lemon lime water in the morning you have green juices like we put on our make a fresh green juice or you use like our green 85 Juice formula, just put a scoop and shake it out and drink it. You do these types of things. Or if you're if you're type two diabetic, then you would want to have like one food monolithically. Just eat like a bowl of quinoa or a green leafy salad until you're well and you're off your Metformin or whatever that stuff is. And then then you can go ahead and do the liquid nourishment, for anorexics and bulimics. We're not giving you a permission slip to not eat or throw up more. So we just want to be clear on that. So because there's self image issues there and stuff going on, that's more psychological work, right? It's a different topic. Yeah, and I hope another day, there's people out there, you know, that you just look at yourself and, and know that, that creation doesn't make mistakes, you're here for a reason. And, and we need you to be at your best and just reach out for some help. It's okay. So anyway, back to fasting. It's powerful, right? Because from 11 o'clock at night till 11 In the morning, our body's doing a natural backflush or detox. So when you eat breakfast, you breakfast break fast, you're breaking the fast, you stopped the body's natural detoxification process. So we recommend that do liquid nourishment in the morning, wait till after 11am, somewhere between 11 and two, have your lunch and then have a small dinner, around six, if you can stop eating around six, that's a really powerful tool. And then down the road, maybe you'll go to one meal a day, which I know that sounds crazy for somebody, but that's possible. But let's just start off in the morning. And then what we also do then is one day a week once people get this habit going one day a week, we do liquid nourishment, so it's all liquid nourishment, there's no heavy food that day. So Tuesday night at six to be my last meal. I wouldn't eat again until probably 2pm on Thursday. And I know that scares people, but we're flooding the body. We're still getting the nutrition because we have these green juices and stuff. We're just not we don't have all this excess food to process. Now, why this is so powerful, especially when talking about immunity. There is nothing more powerful to boost your immune system than like a three day water fast. Like it is profound. And why is that because people don't get it 60 to 80% of our energy on a daily basis is used to break down and process our foods. So if we don't eat heavy foods, guess what all and we just get the liquid nourishment and it goes through and it's uptake into our bloodstream within 20-30 minutes without any effort. All that energy is rerouted to boost our immune system. It's rerouted for our mental clarity, it's rerouted for activities of daily living our energy levels. That's why it's so powerful and profound. It's a big deal. And probably the clinic that does the best at it is called the TrueNorth clinic out of Northern California. They they they supervise medical water fasting and they have tremendous results with people. So but you probably you're like I don't want to do water fasting for two or three weeks I get it. Start off with just the morning of stop doing the heavy meals for breakfast and do liquid nourishment with like a green juice.

David Sandstrom 44:25
And I was just about to say that just to finish up is don't don't jump into the three day or five day water fast that most people just way too toxic to do that. You've got Let's just do one meal got to ease into this. Do it gently. Do not you will regret it if you try that I had I had a friend. He didn't know too much about health but he did a 10 day water fast. And he was probably 100 pounds overweight and he said Dave I was so how did you feel? He said I was on the couch for 10 days. I couldn't get off the couch.

Tim James 44:52
I didn't have any he was doing surgery without a knife. Yeah, yeah.

David Sandstrom 44:55
So that was that's the wrong approach. You want to ease into this gently but it is a powerful health building practice? Yeah, absolutely. Anyway, Tim, that was a ton of knowledge. You're super knowledgeable, I appreciate you sharing your wisdom with the natural nation. If people want to get a hold of you, what's the best way to do that?

Tim James 45:12
The best way is just go to our website at chemicalfreebody.com. That's chemical free body.com. And if you guys would like to try some of our, our detox and nutrition products, I will say this that our formulator Dr. Scott Treadway and I, we believe in nature, everything is 100% naturally occurring. Maybe if you like me, David, you have to have me back on and we can get into how to choose supplements next time. But we are literally a needle in the haystack. If you guys want to try some of our stuff, just go to the products tab and go to the savings bundles because it can be a little confusing and pick like a little jumpstart bundle. Or you can do what I do, I do the total energy and detox bundle. And then that way you get a discount. And then at checkout, you can put in the code NHM for Natural Health Matters and get an additional 5% off that we guys can get a double discount, and we have a double your money back guarantee on all of our products. If something doesn't work, let us know call us myself or one of our coaches will get on the phone with you. We will find you a different tool. Our products are just part of our tools in our toolkit to help you you know energize yourself and get your health back and feel good. We just want you to wake up and feel good. And we know a couple other companies got different stuff if you have an allergic reaction or whatever, which is rare, but it does happen. Again, we'll refund your money. We're here to help you solve your problem and wake up and feel good.

David Sandstrom 46:32
That sounds fantastic. Tim yhank you again for your time. For more, go to the show notes page at davidsandstrom.com/79. There you'll find links to all the resources that were mentioned, as well as a downloadable transcript. That's it for now. I'll talk with the next week be blessed

And of course, when we're talking about these EMFs, his natural design is of course, you know, we can be exposed to emf in nature. But when we have these man-made frequencies, they're going to be not in resonance. They're not going to be consistent with our natural design. Would you agree with that?

Justin Frandson 0:15
Quite definitely. When we sleep, David, we're in a delta theta brainwave state, that's one or below one to eight waves per second, or Hertz. That's our brainwave state when we're in a restorative sleep. 5g is 60 to 90 billion waves per second oh my goodness. Your router is 2.4-5 billion waves for a second same with your phone. Same with your smartwatch, same of the ear buds. So yes, it's a big difference, then how we're designed to coexist with the universe.

David Sandstrom 0:46
oWelcome to the Natural Health Matters podcast where it's all about maximizing your health potential, so that you can look and feel your best at any age. I'm your host, David Sandstrom, Naturopathic Doctor, and Biblical Health Coach. And this is episode number 78. Today, we have n the show, Justin Frandson. Justin is an athleticism performance coach, his clientless consists of many of the highest ranked professional athletes in the US just is one of the only athletic performance coaches in the country that is doing hands on nerve treatment for performance. He's known for getting sports concussions back faster than ever. And he's an expert in EMF or electromagnetic frequencies. And that's what we're going to talk about today. Justin, Welcome to Natural Health Matters.

Justin Frandson 1:31
David, thank you so much for having me on your show.

David Sandstrom 1:33
All right. It's, it's great to be here with you. So this is going to be the first interview I've done from a car. I'm not in the car but Justin is.

Justin Frandson 1:41
I apologize, everyone I got caught on the road. But we got connection. We got grounding bags, we have lots information for you.

David Sandstrom 1:50
Excellent, excellent. Thank God for technology, you know, it's all working. So let's, let's hope it stays that way. So Justin, for the for the Natural Nation. For those that don't know, what is what are EMFs

Justin Frandson 2:03
EMFs are frequencies, they're having an electromagnetic resonance to it. And they can be anything from a cosmic EMF just because the universe is electric. And so are we, or it could be a man made electricity generation. Now, the big difference that we want to understand is that the universe is has a certain polarity and wave form to it that we are one with and we accept with. So for instance, the sun has unpolarized waves, they distribute equally in every direction, more like scalar waves where if the sun were a one directional wave form, we wouldn't be here today. But the man made our one directional wave forms. So it's polar opposite, then how we're revved, how the universe revs, and it causes lots of chaos for our body. So that's what we're going to talk about today.

David Sandstrom 3:00
Excellent. Well, for your listeners, it's my contention that we maximize our health potential when we align our lives more fully with God's natural design for spirit, mind and body. And of course, when we're talking about these EMFs, his natural design is of course, you know, we can be exposed to emf in nature. But when we have these manmade frequencies, they're going to be not in resonance, they're not going to be consistent with our natural design. Would you agree with that?

Justin Frandson 3:25
Quite definitely. And remember, it's the polar opposite charge. They're one directional waveforms, which caused lots of chaos and vibration or a body. And then the proximity with these are 10 zeros faster than how we sleep rather than optimize. So when we sleep, David, we're in a delta theta brainwave state, that's one or below one to eight waves per second, or Hertz. That's our brain state when we're in a restorative sleep. 5g is 60 to 90 billion waves per second. Oh, my goodness, your routers 2.45 billion waves per second same with your phone. Same with your smartwatch. Same with the ear buds. So yes, it's a big difference, then how we're designed to coexist with the universe.

David Sandstrom 4:10
So you just you just mentioned a few things, cell phones, wifi's antennas, antenna towers. So we're bombarded with these things all over the place. Right. So can you speak to what if you are experiencing I'm sure it's people's ability to adapt to these harmful energies varies from person to person, but what kind of symptoms could somebody be experiencing? If EMF is a problem for them?

Justin Frandson 4:37
Definitely. Well start with the adaptation process and and the absorption ratings. So there's a SARS ratings that, you know, people absorb this EMF and their bodies were made of water and electricity. We're a conductor. There's people that are more of a compromise to this when you're younger or older. Obviously fetus doesn't have blood brain barrier so that they don't have any skull, or their skulls aren't fully developed. And so older, younger people that are sick, they get discharged from it. So when you get discharged, it's really challenging to heal. So our grounding bag can actually recharged you through a tapping protocol, which is super fun. But the the EMFs have this innate healing property of the Earth, which is that negative ionic charge that we're pulling from, and that's what the Earth does best. So we look to mother nature to solve that challenge.

David Sandstrom 5:33
Yeah. So if if I'm, let's say, I'm an airline pilot for the last 30 years, and we get bombarded with EMF up there in the air in the cockpit, especially, all the wiring in the airplane is routed through the cockpit because we need it, we need to have access to all the switches, the circuit breakers, relays and all that is up there. And I have a guas meter and I brought it into the cockpit with me in a number of times. And it's almost useless because when you turn the thing on, it just pegs out. In most areas of the cockpit is just full pegged. It's off the chart how high it is, especially when you get near the windshields because we have to have those heated windshield heated not only for ice formation, but if we run into a bird, a cold windshield will crack and shatter much more easily. So the windshield is always heated even on a warm day for strength. So we are we have a lot of EMF and I can tell you what are the symptoms I experienced when I had a long day flying is fatigue. You know, you have exhaustion at the end of a long day, unlike you have in an office environment where you might have some EMF from the Wi Fi and your phone and your computer and that kind of thing. But it doesn't compare to what we experienced up there. 35,000 feet. So for me, fatigue is a big deal, but what other symptoms by people experience?

Justin Frandson 6:48
Right so now that we understand the absorption portion and that everyone's hit differently, there are actual quantifiable symptoms that people will feel fatigue is definitely one of them. Dr. Martin Paul at a Washington State University uncovered that the voltage gated calcium channels open up and let positive calcium into a negative cell so that excess calcium causes tremendous DNA and cells damage. So when that happens, the first symptoms like I call them level one. They're going to be all cognitive. So fatigue, anxiety, stress, r inging in the ears, there's gonna be sleepless nights. So brain fog, all the cognitive stuff. And your behavior will change again, just to get a lot more aggressive, per se. Yeah, level two, let's let's go over level two, so we have more severe symptoms. So you're gonna see more ringing in the years more bloody noses, muscle twitching, massive migraines, nausea, I think the Havana cohort that was on 60 minutes a couple years ago, the first attack of US Embassy workers on foreign soil in Cuba and China with microwave radiation showcased those types of symptoms and they were hospitalized for six months or more each person. So then the level three would be the bigs cancer, Alzheimer's, diabetes, suicide, cardiovascular challenges, and then the biggest right now we're seeing David as fertility challenges.

David Sandstrom 8:24
Wow. Okay. All right. So that's how it can manifest. So what can we do about it? What what are some of the things we can do to help mitigate this, this stressor in our lives?

Justin Frandson 8:36
Well, really, how I'm storytelling in this podcast is to understand the universe, understand that were made with it, identify what electricity stressors are, and it's basically all electricity. So you have to identify those, and its electricity or your outlets in your home, anything that's electric, and then you have dirty electricity would be the other meter that we can measure it from. It's a little faster wavelength measurement that we quantified in with the meters. And then we have acoustic meters that measure all the wireless signals. So you want to know what the different stressors are, and then develop proximity awareness protocols to them. So avoid wearing Apple watches, do not buy electric cars, shut your routers off at night. Do you not get solar on your home because that causes excess dirty electricity and do not put your laptop on your lap without anything protecting it going directly to your private area. So there's super simple things do not put your phone next year ahead and have it away. There's that SARS reading that. They don't account for people having that phone next to their head. It's not meant to be glued into your head. So you have to think about if it's an ear, but you have an airway canal directly to your brain, there's not a skull there. So you have 2.45 billion waves per second of a positive waveform localized in your inner ear, actually directly in your brain that's going to cause acoustic nerve challenges. The California Department of Public Health did a study on it, they published it, and they had it up on the website for a short minute when they were sued to put it up. And now of course, they've taken it down because they don't really care about our health. But it talks about all the challenges with the answer and, and having a phone next to your ear. So once you have the awareness of the stressors, you can meter them, um, and quantify these levels and bioinitiative.org is a great way to say, Hey, these are some safe levels that we have, and these ones are not safe. And so anything one milligauss and below for electricity is good. The GSC and it's we use a Stetzer electric meter, it's amps, two volts, and that's, that's your STETZERelectric.com, you can buy one, they're like 100, and some dollars to get it really important investment for everyone. Because you can see, when you have din switches, just attempting to keep the level of your lighting at the level that you want, it will cause static and sparking in line and turn increase dirty electricity. And then you have the acoustic meters. So radio frequency third, you know, the one directional waveform millimeter wave wireless signals that you can measure on that. So yeah, these meters will meter out, which is crazy, because we can't even test even on a cell phone. Most acoustic meters will meet her out, it's too strong. So definitely there's no meter to meter 5g, so we don't know when they're cheering on or when they're not cheering on. The other part of protecting yourself is to get outside in nature and get grounded by nature. Remember, we have this positive charge coming from above. So our bodies act like a battery. And we rev so so well with the universe. We're one with the universe. So we have this positive charge coming from above. But it's, it's it's unpolarized thing. And then now with the satellites coming in beaming 5g phased array down on us. That's a polarizing waveform. And then we have a negative ionic charge coming from below. So we pull the electrons from it. And that's what charges our battery in our body. So Clint Ober wrote and wrote a book on earthing, and he talks about not having any pain, called their earthing. And the book was called Earthing, and he wrote it on everything, but you don't have pain when you're grounded, and your earthy, and you're getting barefoot and you're getting out, pulling these electrons from below, recharging your body, going barefoot, touching trees, hugging trees, getting in the ocean, pulling those electrons from the ocean, from that saltwater. It's so so medicinal. So,

David Sandstrom 12:58
so rough, you're right there, just let me interrupt your teeth, she's just covered a lot, a lot of ground right there. So what you're saying is this from the sun's natural energy, we receive nonpolarized or positive electrons. And since we are electric beings, that electricity needs to flow somewhere in a flow of opposites attract, right so with flows to the negative ions in the earth is that is that what you're saying?

Justin Frandson 13:22
Essentially, I think Eileen McKusick explains it really well, where we get the negative and positive ionic charge. And we have all of our health, as Bruce Lipton will say, is in our energy field. So this is what charges our field, and the circuitry, she can dive into that how it flows the best in your body, it's really intricate. And she can clear it through turning tuning for where. So we just we pull both of them from above. And that's what keeps our charge. And it's this, this amazing flow within it. It's just like a battery, how actual battery would work. So we ended up getting more of a charge from a blow below and above the good when we do it right when we have the manmade stressors in us. As Dr. Mercola would say, We're EMFd, because you're getting one directional above, you're wearing shoes below and not getting grounded from the earth and pulling those electrons. So we're losing our charge. And so that's why these PMF devices are fantastic. We deploy grounding bags in your home to help you sleep better than ever. And so these are hand mined crystals that have this moisture magnetic property to to repel EMF. And there we sell them at doctor clinics all around the country. So there's so many different ways you can go ahead and get grounded by nature, versus a man made device attempting to keep up with manmade signals.

David Sandstrom 14:47
So what do you do with the grounding pad you put it like next to your bed or where do you place it?

Justin Frandson 14:52
Yeah, so our grounding bags, we put them on or on your bed at the head of the bed. You can do the same with a desk or a car seat, put em behind the bottom of your car seat, they would be fantastic in your cockpit in the airplane, because you're in it in a metal capsule with a lots of electricity. And the I have a quick story just to divert on that. Because you're a pilot. I had a client, they lived in a wealthy neighborhood and Newport Beach where I'm from, and they, their son got childhood diabetes at 12. And their home was super high, dirty electricity and milligauss. I said, you guys got to get out of here and fix us. They went on a trip to Fiji, the son just had his new diabetes tracker on and the moms got it on tracking. And they get in this plane. And when everyone turns on their Wifi, his his his blood sugar went up 200 points, and he got a bloody nose. And then yeah, and then and then have you know three fourths of the way through the flight, everyone falls asleep. And then some sort of wake up again is meter went up 100 points. And when people start to wake up again, and he was still sleeping, but he got a bloody nose while he's sleeping and his meter went up another 100 plus points. I mean, the moms just watching this whole thing going, This is crazy. So stay, we know that these bodies going to be affected. But the the grounding bags, yeah, the more protocols with these guys, as you put you put five together in your home on the floor, and they'll clear 2000 square feet area, you're gonna need seven together, if you have solar on your home, if you have an electric car driving a Tesla, we're seeing really high levels, it's just cooking people in an unhealthy way. So we're seeing the whole front dashboards milligauss, you're sitting on a battery, a massive, massive batteries that are dirty electricity and the whole thing self driving. So you need another half five or so behind the driver's seat, like really on the floor right behind the driver's seat to clear the the vibration and convert that waveform to something that healthy. So there's different protocols that we do with the grounding bags that are exceptional, we also do a tapping protocol, you can tap on the grounding bag with one hand, and then cover your eyes with the other your teeth, or your thymus, or your intestine area. And the tapping is like applied kinesiology technique that has those who have negative electrons in the bag and directs them directly to that area that's been decharged, and the eyes are so sensitive, the teeth will fracture, that's your gateway to health, your thymus is your electrical system for your whole body. Obviously, there's so much your immune system in your gut area. So those four areas are the most sensitive. So there's an incredible tapping protocol with a grounding bag that you can actually recharge your body with. So

David Sandstrom 17:50
these are areas where destructions in that when you sell the bags?

Justin Frandson 17:53
Oh yeah, I mean, people see this as a thing, you try and keep up like put a chip or sticker on your phone, it's not going to work for more than a minute. And we just this is what Mother Nature does is she's so medicinal. And when we're one with her, and we understand that these waveforms that she's kicking off for us are super healthy, we just will start to heal. And now we have something that we can coexist with all this manmade EMF without worrying about it. So now, you could essentially, you know, keep flying, but convert these forms. So it's healthy when you're flying and you you're more energized at the end of the day.

David Sandstrom 18:32
Well, I'm totally with you on the grounding aspect of the whole thing. But for somebody in the audience that saying, wait a minute, this guy is saying that I can take a bag of rocks, put it under my bed, and it's going to improve my health. Would you speak to the skeptic on and just explain in layman's terms, if you can, how that works and how it functions?

Justin Frandson 18:51
Definitely, the crystals have magnetic resonances in them. And so it's a very common, quantifiable level. So shung guide amethyst, Black Tourmaline well known ones that have magnetic properties. Ours also have moisture properties in them. So the combination between the moisture and magnetic properties is what really allows our grounding bags to be so effective. We hand mine them. We deploy them in a way where they amplify them and you have the most pure crystals from a pristine area that have those properties in them. And it's just like walking barefoot in a bag David, you're pulling those electrons from the bag and until the bag dries out which could be anywhere from two to 10 years. They still work they work super well. So you're going to have them for a long time. Obviously you use them more if you open them they'll dry out quicker. You got to keep them sealed use it as is and it is been such a blessing for So many because over 10% of the population is EMF sensitive and and I hedged about that. That's way more now with with all this stuff going on in our atmosphere and, and then in addition to the levels of electrification and the Internet of Things, and that's great that they're rolling out. Yeah.

David Sandstrom 20:20
So is it safe to say that the moisture in the bag and in the rocks because water is a good conductor of electricity? It enhances the effectiveness of them? Exactly. Yeah. Okay. Very good. And, you know, I want to say to the, to the Natural Nation, there's a reason why everyone loves a barefoot walk on the beach, right? Because God designed us to make barefoot connection with the earth on a regular basis. And we've lost that, as you said earlier. Dr. Mercola points to so is that we're wearing shoes. I see people walking on the beach and a beautiful day in tennis shoes.

Justin Frandson 20:53
Exactly. take my shoes off with earbuds in their phone. Yeah,

David Sandstrom 20:58
yeah, yeah. Yeah, we weren't designed to have earbuds stuck in our ears are real quick story. But before I really learned about the harmful effects of Bluetooth, I bought a headset that went into my ears, it kind of wrapped around the back of my head, it was comfortable. And you could hear people talk outside didn't block out all the noise. And I thought this is kind of cool. Well, I got jury duty. And I said, Well, there's a lot of sitting around in jury duty, I'm gonna bring my earbuds and I'm gonna listen to some podcasts. So I basically had these things in all day. Well, I came down with a head cold, like the next day, and it weakened my immune system. And I thought, well, that's kind of interesting. And I got jury duty. I don't know if was six months later, maybe actually was a year later, because you can't go more than once a year here in Atlanta. And it was the next year I did the same thing. The same thing happened to me, I got a cold. So from that point on, I said, No more bluetooth earbuds for David, I'm not doing it anymore. It's well,

Justin Frandson 21:55
if I can dive a little deeper and out of the allow your Natural Nation will allow me to do EMF, manmade EMF or environmental toxins. And when you said you got sick, that's exactly what's happening right now with our entire world. We're adapting to the electricfication of with manmade radiation levels that we haven't seen before this new 5g rollout, the proximity to this EMF stuff, our body picks up that resonance and the way the only way we know how and the way God made us is we produce a virus and adapt to the symptoms. So that's what we're seeing right now. And if you look at the book, the invisible rainbow, by Arthur Furstenberg, he categorizes all the pandemics in the history of the globe and directly correlates them to increased electrification in our electromagnetic blanket of an atmosphere, whether it's cosmic or manmade. So before 1918, there's lots of cosmic shifts, that throws off your REM patterns, so you don't sleep. But we're, we adapt and we get challenges from it. Well, 1918, we introduced radio waves, and that was the Spanish flu. Satellites in the Van Allen belt was the Hong Kong flu. World War Two we introduced radar. This book categorizes every single electrification event and even before that, wraped the whole world and then copper and a copper band god. Yeah, Tom Cowan MD talks about that in his book, The contagion myth. So just like dolphins would get sick in the ocean, if you polluted the water, we're getting sick, because we're polluting our environment, which is our air our plasma, and waves travel in this plasma and particles travel in it. And whether it's cosmic shift, or manmade, it's going to change your REM patterns, it's going to our bodies are going to do the best we can to adapt to these challenges.

David Sandstrom 24:00
Right? Right. We're always dealing with blocking factors to our health. And of course, some of this is going to be unavoidable, but we should take the steps that we can, I'd like to just review a couple of a couple of pointers that you gave earlier. You speakerphone instead of putting the phone up to your head, right when I mean it's gonna be hard to live without a cell phone these days. We get that but you speakerphone instead. Because when you move it up even a couple of inches away from your skull, the amount of EMF goes way down. Is that correct? A huge difference. Yeah. And stay away from electric cars. Yeah, that's a big thing. And they'll

Justin Frandson 24:36
we'll do well note on that real quick. I had a colleague that did blood tests work with the military 18% lower testosterone for Special Forces guys driving electric cars. Wow. Interesting. Now and then you add this shot to it. If people get the shot that everyone's getting Now, not everyone but some people are getting. They're trying to get everyone to get That's 20% lower testosterone. So you combine getting vaccine with driving electric car, you're gonna take your testosterone levels significantly down into dangerous zone, we're gonna have other challenges bone breasts, heart challenges, potentially prostate for guys.

David Sandstrom 25:18
Wow, that that's really huge. Another another piece of advice was put a timer on your Wifi at your house and at least turn it off at night. Right? You could go back to the old fashioned way and actually plug your computers into the to the internet, right. But if you don't do that, at least at least turn it off at night when you're sleeping. need it.

Justin Frandson 25:38
hardwire is faster, safer, security wise and more reliable. And there's minimal health challenges.

David Sandstrom 25:44
Right, right. Absolutely. So that's a little bit of low hanging fruit. But can you offer any other pieces of low hanging fruit that people can implement in their lives and it gets some quick wins.

Justin Frandson 25:55
Josh Del Sol did a documentary movie called Take Back Your Power. And he talked about he foresaw all the stuff that's going on right now in that documentary. It's unbelievable. But he talked about the smart meters, and how damaging they are for your house. So I would encourage everyone to watch that documentary movie, and then you'll opt out of your smart meter. So you call your gas and electric company and say I want to opt out of my smart meter. And most of the time, they allow you to do it for in California $75, one time fee and extra $10 a month, when you do that your home doesn't act like having a cell tower on it. So these smart meters are to a router, they ping into your house. And out back to the substation reading everything. So it's a huge privacy thing, because they know what you're doing every seven to 15 seconds, that's sporadic ping of, of the Smart Meter is also damaging to our body and way more chaotic than just a straight signal. So the smart meters and opting out of those. And making sure you're not even close to those, when you're sleeping is going to be a huge, huge part. We have Faraday bags. So I have one right here will show you this is our Faraday bag. It's a static bag and trying to get it so you can see it without the reflection. So I apologize again for me being in the car but but that that static bag, you can actually have the router on one side, lean the static baggage against it. So at least for the Smart Meter. So at least the direction of it. It's like one layer of protection, it's probably the most cost effective layer of protection that you can lean upagainst it.

David Sandstrom 27:44
So you would put the put your phone in the bag, or what do you do with the bag?

Justin Frandson 27:48
Well, the Faraday bags Yes, typically, I was I was saying you could also use them as a shielding property for a smart meter or a route or something but between you and smart meter, right between you uninspiring technically what they're used for is you put your phone in it, and it protects you from your phone because your phone's 2.45 billion waves per second. So it protects you from your phone, it protects your phone from data harvesting, which is the biggest thing going on right now your battery only lasts several hours or less. Because of the data harvesting. They're constantly listening to everything you're saying. And they're aggregating that information not only are they listening, they're tracking your all your markers, so they know your your fingerprints, your retina, scan your face frame, your how fast you drive, they know your gait, your behavior, how you sleep, your grades, your transcripts, the literally all your passwords, and all your banking information. This is what your bank, essentially if you had your your bank's app on your phone, that's what they would be tracking. So look at getting Android phones, wiping them clean. And you're not gonna be having as much as these tracking capabilities on a different platform than you would on an Apple phone.

David Sandstrom 29:07
Yeah, are there some resources that you know about to help people through that process of kind of privatizing their phone?

Justin Frandson 29:14
I do, but I can't share it online. So someone can reach out if they want some help. But the people that I work with are completely off the grid and invisible from what they're doing so and that's a way for our sovereignty quite honestly, the if you think about it, the CCP controls every single one of these devices that were driving if driving a foreign car. Yeah, even you know, in our voting, you know, platforms dominion, their parts of this are made in the CCP districts where they're tracking everything so it's a big you know, safety measure for future I'm one of the things that my wife will tell that I'm gifted at is foreseen. The next decade the next trend, what's going to happen out there, whether it's BOSU balls to kettlebells to breathwork to tai chi or or being gluten free, those are all things that I saw at least a decade or more before they came popular. This is just another one. The more we can put our phone in a Faraday bag when we're not using it, or get into an analog phone or Android phone, excuse me. That's a 4g level and doesn't have all the trackers on it. They're not going to be able to aggregate and change us to transhuman will still stay natural, Natural Nation.

David Sandstrom 30:36
Yeah, that's good advice. Excellent advice. So if people want to get ahold of you, what's the best way to do that?

Justin Frandson 30:42
EMF rocks.com e m f rocks.com is where you find all our products. athleticism.com. I'm athleticism performance coach. So athleticism.com is where you'll see a lot of our curated health and performance products as well. This is I'm in Southern California. So reach out. Let me know what you have any challenges with your proximity to these increased electrification and we'll give you some incredible credible solutions, whether it's our grounding bags to convert the waveform, or blocking opportunities with pain or 10, or even our simple Faraday bag. There's cost effective solutions. And, but no one does better than Mother Nature. So we're so grateful for her gifts.

David Sandstrom 31:31
Yeah. Excellent. That's really good stuff. Well, thank you, Justin, for sharing your wisdom with the Natural Nation.

Justin Frandson 31:36
Thank you, David. I appreciate you having me on.

David Sandstrom 31:39
For more, go to the show notes page at davidsandstrom.com/78. That's it for now. I'll talk with you next week. Be blessed