by David Sandstrom 

November 15, 2021

This episode is part 18 in our series on the spiritual component of health. This concludes our series. However, we're never really finished talking about the spiritual component of health because, as followers of Jesus Christ, everything in life becomes holy and therefore has a spiritual component. Our bodies are the temple of The Holy Spirit (physical health). We are to take every thought captive and be transformed by the renewing of our minds (mental/emotional health) and of course our spiritual component is all about loving relationships, love for God, love for others, and love for ourselves.

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Show Notes


Today's Guest...

  • Crystal Freie - Women's Empowerment Coach and Speaker

Topics Discussed...w / Time Stamps

  • 02:50 - Introduction
  • 03:57 - Crystal leaves her career in corporate
  • 09:46 - Hearing from God
  • 15:28 - Life after Crystal's transition
  • 19:05 - The enemy's strategy to keep us bound
  • 22:55 - The health benefits to walking in our purpose and calling
  • 31:59 - God prefers to spare us from health challenges
  • 34:04 - Operating in our sweet spot
  • 36:10 - The kind of women Crystal works with
  • 37:30 - Pressing through the fear
  • 43:38 - Crystal's SALT acronym for real transformation
  • 46:33 - Summary


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David Sandstrom 0:00
Here's a sample of what you'll hear on this episode of Natural Health Matters.

Crystal Freie 0:04
When you are overflowing when you are in that sweet spot and you are overflowing with abundance, it touches everything. It touches your relationships. It touches how you perform in your job. If you are if you happen to be a stay at home mom, it touches you know touches how you parent your kids. It touches how it touches how you do everything, the decisions that you make. Yeah, all of that. And so yeah, getting into that sweet spot. I think it should be where all of us are striving to get to and stay there in that sweet spot so that we can truly live the abundant life.

David Sandstrom 0:43
Welcome to the Natural Health Matters podcast where it's all about maximizing your health potential, so that you can pursue the abundant life more effectively. I'm your host, David Sandstrom, Naturopathic Doctor and Biblical Health Coach. And this is episode number 72. `This episode is part 18. In our series on the spiritual component of health. We're wrapping up this series. But the truth is, we're not really closing the door on this because when you're a follower of Jesus Christ, everything in life becomes spiritual. Our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit. So anything we do to prove our bodily health has a spiritual component to it. The Bible instructs us to be in control of our thought lives. First Corinthians 10:5 says, "take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ." So when we're talking about the mental emotional component of a human being, we're also talking about spiritual issues. And of course, if we're talking about relationships, love for God, love for others, love for ourselves, self care. Those are all spiritual issues as well. So everything we talked about on this show, Natural Health Matters podcast has a spiritual component. So in a sense, we're never really going to conclude the series on the spiritual component of health because everything we talk about has a spiritual component. If you've enjoyed this series, and if you're enjoying the podcast in general, would you help me spread the word by telling a friend about it, most people learn about a new podcast by someone telling them about it. So I sure would appreciate you spreading the word and finding a Christian friend and sharing the podcast with them, you can send them a text message, or you can share it on social media. If you go to my website, Forward slash the episode number or forward slash podcast, you can find a social share button there as well. And one more thing before we get started, this whole series is based around my book, The Christians guide to holistic health. So if you've enjoyed this series, you're probably going to enjoy my book, you can go to my website,, forward slash book, and you can pick up a copy there.

David Sandstrom 2:50
Today, we're talking about purpose and calling. It's my contention, that all human beings have the same purpose. We're here to bring glory and honor to God. But when it comes to `our callings, that's an individual thing in sometimes it's difficult to find and truly walk in our callings on a consistent basis. So to help us explore that topic, some I've brought on the show, Crystal Freie and Crystal is an Empowerment Coach and a follower of Jesus Christ. And she's got a lot of wisdom to share on just how we can hear from God clearly, and walk in our purpose and calling. So let's jump right into my interview with crystal Frey.

David Sandstrom 3:29
Today we have in the show crystal Freie. Crystal is an Empowerment Coach and Speaker. She helps women of faith, eliminate their limiting beliefs, embrace, change, and transform their lives. Crystal, Welcome to Natural Health Matters.

Crystal Freie 3:43
David, thank you so much for having me on. It is an absolute honor to be here with you and share this time today. Oh, thank you, I appreciate you taking the time. So I'd like to talk today about purpose and calling. So I know that you left a corporate job to pursue what you believe was God's calling on your life. Could you tell us a few of the details about that? Absolutely. And I love that we are talking about purpose and calling because that is an area that is just really very near and dear to me. I have struggled for a very long time in my own life, trying to find I knew I had purpose, really trying to find that calling and really trying to figure out what it was. And I spent just about 13 years in my corporate job, started, you know, started at the bottom and really worked my way up into a nice, comfortable salary and all of the things I had a team that I was managing, was responsible for a couple of different departments. And everything was I guess, fine on the outside. I spent you know all of this time really building my career really chasing that that corporate ladder if you will You know, I went back to school, I got a degree because I was told that I had to have that in order to get a promotion. The promotion that was promised with the degree never came, it was quite a long time afterwards. And when it did come, it was kind of, well, we're going to give this too, because we kind of feel like we have to. And so towards the end of my time there, I really got into this place of this is not where I belong anymore. And there was just this feeling that I don't belong here anymore. You know, this, this is no longer where God needs me to be. And everything that was going on with the job, there were a lot of changes happening, a lot of change in the management change in the employees change in how we were doing things. And I just felt so strongly, you know, this is no longer in alignment wish the company Well, absolutely, and all of the people, but I just knew it was no longer for me, my stress level was so high. You want to talk about how stress and how these things impact your health. David, my hair started falling out, because my stress level was so high.

David Sandstrom 6:14
Wow. Yes, yeah. There's a spirit mind body connection speaking to you loud and clear, right?

David Sandstrom 6:21
Yes, yes. And I finally told my husband, you know, we'd been talking about it for several months. And of course, his stance was because he's looking at it like, Okay, well, you know, you have a very comfortable salary, you're, you know, supporting the majority of our household, but you can't quit your job. Like, yeah, but I can't stay here either. So.

David Sandstrom 6:41
Well, there's always in my profession, you know, your audience may not know, but I'm an Airline Pilot. That's my full time career. And people refer to this concept we're talking about right now as the golden handcuffs. Like, yeah, I have a good paycheck coming in. And I really can't I don't know if I can leave that, you know, we'll talk about some of the some of the fear associated with those transitions in a little bit. But anyway, I want to hear the rest of your story.

Crystal Freie 7:03
Yes. So really, we, we kept having the conversation, and and I finally just had to ask him, I was like, Look, do you want me? Or do you want my paycheck? You know, and not that he was like, Oh, we just need the money? You know, definitely not again, you know, I've been married for almost 20 years. So he had to, I really had to ask God to open up his eyes to see what the stress level was really doing to me and to, you know, my health and well being, you know, overall. And, and the last straw like the final straw, I took a meeting on my day off, which, you know, is a no, no, but I was the one person that had to be in that meeting, because I had all the information. And I took that meeting on my day off. And afterwards, I went and talked to my husband and I said, I cannot do this anymore. I said, I am so angry right now, because of the outcome. Because of how I have allowed myself to, you know, not be supportive in my own boundaries. I cannot do this anymore. So I'm gonna wind up in the hospital, my stress level was so high, I'm going to put myself in the hospital.

David Sandstrom 8:23
So you've you felt the pull for a while. And then, you kind of got to the point where like, okay, enough's enough. Yes. So was that transition easy at that point? Or was it still difficult?

Crystal Freie 8:37
At that point, it actually became much easier. You know, I said, I had been, I'd been feeling that pull for a while, and I kept asking, you know, Okay, God, I know, I know, this is not where I'm supposed to be. When, like, when do I leave? When do I go? And I kept hearing this whole, you know, like, leave and then it will appear. And I'm like, why don't want to leave? I just want to take a step, you know? And, and when I finally you know, really got to that point that day, I was like, Okay, God, like when, and it was now. And so when I talked to my husband that day, that is when he he completely changed his narrative. And he looked at me and he said, babe, if you know that you're not supposed to be there anymore, then it's just time to go. He said, Don't drag this out anymore. Put in your notice. Leave. Yeah. And again, like that was a complete 180 from the conversations that we had had before. So I knew that that was just further confirmation of God answering that prayer. You know that, yes, it's time to go now.

David Sandstrom 9:46
So is it safe to say that God gave you an inner voice as well as external circumstances to come to that realization that it's time to make the change?

Crystal Freie 9:55
Absolutely. And it's so funny that you mentioned the inner voice and the outer You know, kind of circumstances and confirmation, I joke that sometimes I really believe that God created me for comic relief, because I will hear things, you know, I'll be praying about something and I will hear things and then I'll go, okay, so wait a minute, like, God was at you. Like, if that was you say it again, you know, like, knock three times, like, turn the lights on, give me a second, you know, instead of just trusting that, you know that that voice, it is coming from God, you know, so it's it. He did give me the internal and I think sometimes, and maybe your audience can relate to this, maybe you can relate to this. Sometimes I will hear what he says. But sometimes my level of trust and faith isn't at a point where I really believe that he's telling me what it is about me.

David Sandstrom 10:51
Yeah, well, that's always a struggle, right? I remember about well was about 20 years ago, I attended a men's retreat. And it was put on by John Eldridge and the team at Ransomed Heart and went out to Colorado Springs, and it was probably, I would guess, three or 400 men there. And John and the team kept making their presentations. And they kept making references to Well, I asked God, this, and he told me that, and then God showed me this. And God said that, and like, I've never heard this kind of talk before. I've never met someone who's hearing from God like Moses did. You know, this is this is strange. And one of the during one of the breaks, they had a q&a session, and I raised my hand and I said, you know, you guys are talking about God said this, and that I, I've never had that experience. Can you speak to that? And John, just smile that he said, You know, it's available. Most Christians have not taken advantage of that opportunity. But the Bible is full of examples where Moses said to God, then God said, and, you know, Abraham's said this, and God said that, and why is it that just because we're living in the 21st century? We think that's gone away? It hasn't. But we all have that nagging voice. What mean? Is that just me? Is that just my imagination? Or is that God? It's sometimes it's, it is a little difficult?

Crystal Freie 12:11
Absolutely. I think the key to that is looking for that external confirmation. You know, when we hear it, when we feel it in our spirit, sometimes I believe sometimes it's so strong that we know without a doubt, right? You know, I've had a couple of instances where what has come in to me has been so strong and so powerful, it is literally stopped me in my tracks. And I've known without doubt, this is the Holy Spirit speaking to me. Yeah. And then other times, it's come quietly, and you know, people reference the still small voice, it's come quietly. And I've had to really, you know, kind of meditate on it and really pray about it and say, you know, God, if this is really what you're asking me to do, can you make it clear, speak to me in a way that I will understand?

David Sandstrom 13:05
And He is gracious to answer that prayer, isn't it? He will give us confirmation. Yes, that's been my experience. And my experience was very similar. Sometimes I'll get a lot clearer. I'll know. And other times, I'll need some more confirmation. And he gives that to me over and over. And I find I need to mention this right now is one of the best ways for me to hear from God is to fast from food. You know, a lot of people talk about, well, when you're fast, you know, it can be fasting from television, or maybe fasting from your morning walk for a week. I know, for me, it's food. When you abstain from food, I think you're demonstrating a certain level of humility. God really responds to that. And for me, it clears out the static between me and the Holy Spirit, and I can hear from him much more clearly. When we move from Florida to Georgia. That's what I did to confirm and to get a word from God is this really what you would have for us and he made it loud and clear.

Crystal Freie 13:58
That's amazing. And I love that you mentioned fasting from food. Because when we were talking in the in the kind of our pre show time, I was telling you that I am in the middle of listening to your book, The Christians guide to Holistic Health, and the section in there about fasting about intermittent fasting about how our body needs to have, you know, our digestive system needs to have a rest from you know, constant food being put in it. That really got me thinking about the different ways that we can fast but really, when you're looking at fasting from food, and taking that break, and I know some people might be resistant because Oh, I'm gonna be hungry. But you use that, you know, the when the hunger pains don't last long, honestly, like go away. Yeah, they do. They go away, but you use that time to really pull in and draw deeper. When your stomach growls let that be your let that be like your reminder that Oh, Let's pray. You know, ha ha.

David Sandstrom 15:02
Yeah, absolutely. You know, it's there's all a lot of evidence coming out now in medical literature about how beneficial fasting is for your body. And we experienced autophagy. And cells rebuild themselves and they get recycled. And it's really the Fountain of Youth physically. But for me, the best reason for doing fasting is the connection with God. That's the part I enjoy most.

Crystal Freie 15:25
Absolutely, absolutely.

David Sandstrom 15:28
So now that you've made the transition, tell me a little bit about what you transitioned to. What are you doing now? That's more in alignment with your calling?

Crystal Freie 15:37
Oh, yes. So I actually started this work before leaving my corporate job. And again, It's all in alignment with God's plan, because what I'm doing now, as an Empowerment Coach and Speaker, this is not something I ever imagined, in my wildest dreams that I would be doing. And so, you know, I went on my own personal journey and quest, if you will, to find to really figure out what is that calling on my life. And it took me down a path of really having to deal with to confront a whole host of lies that the enemy had been feeding me my entire life. I started working with a coach, and the coach that I started working with actually was given to me by God, I attended her workshop one night, she has a beautiful, beautiful sister in Christ, beautiful friend of mine, I've known her for a very long time. And I attended a workshop of hers, just to support her. And she asked us to start with just a moment, you know, kind of setting the room, close your eyes, bow your head, one question. If you could ask God for anything, what would it be? And the immediate word that came up for me was the word hope. And of course, again, comic relief, I went hope, why do I need help? I'm not hopeless. Why would I ask God for hope, again, like, just the immediate, you know, and I had to quiet myself, like, no crystal be obedient. Like, if God has given you this word hope, then let's just see where it goes. And so that night was incredibly impactful for me. I spoke with her later, and I said, Listen, I can't get this out of my head. I prayed about it. God is telling me that I need to take you as my coach as my partner to walk me through this journey. And thankfully, you know, she was she was like, then let's do this. And this is a woman who like doesn't work with friends or family, because sometimes it gets a little weird. She was like, no, let's do this. And that really started my own journey into who I am, like, not all the other things that you do, but the child of God, like who am I? And like I said, I had to battle through so many lies that the enemy had been telling me, because as I reflected, I was like, You know what, no one ever told me this. You no one ever said to me, Crystal, you're not good enough. No one ever spoke the words to me, Crystal, you're a horrible mother, or you're not a good wife. No one ever spoke those words to me.

David Sandstrom 18:24
But you had those beliefs, nonetheless.

Crystal Freie 18:27
Yes. And they were so deeply entrenched. And the more I worked with her, the more we unpacked, the more I realized that God had actually created me to do something massive. And the only way that it was not going to be carried out, was by the enemy, attacking me, in my own mind, in my own belief system, and pulling me into this place. Because here's the thing, like, he doesn't have to get you to do anything bad. He just has to get you to do nothing.

David Sandstrom 19:05
That's right. He'll use discouragement, use anything you can. The enemy has come to steal, kill and destroy. I think one of the things that he wants to steal most is our sense of identity. Yes, he wants to confuse the issue as to who we are as sons and daughters of Christ. And when we fail to grasp that we can be stuck in neutral. Yes. Right. We're not going to be able to really pursue our calling it our purpose, because we don't know who we are. Yes. How do we know our purpose if we don't know who we are?

Crystal Freie 19:37
Yes. And that is the foundation. And that's one of the key things that I don't think a lot of people really, I don't think they make the connection immediately. A lot of my clients they will you know, we have the conversation and and they're frustrated. They know that there's something more for them. They can't quite put their finger on it. You know, there's there's a lot of internal struggle and frustration and really just, I don't get it. I don't understand I need some help to get through this. And that's usually how they come to me.

David Sandstrom 20:12
I want to make sure that no one's misunderstanding. So you have a coaching practice now. And you coach women one on one, is that right?

Crystal Freie 20:18
Yes, that is correct. Yeah. Yes. So, you know, when, when we start to unpack that, what is almost always, what always comes out is they have confused their identity in Christ. They have attached themselves to their roles, whether it's wife, mother, executive, pancake flipper, whether it is astronaut, you know, it's their titles, right? Their roles, the things that they do, and they have attached their identity to those things. And yes, those are things that we do, yes, they are a part of who we are. But your real identity is, what is there when there's none of those other things? what's leftover when all of the rolls are taken away? And that's where the real work can be done. Because that's where we can start to really peel back the layers and understand how do I see myself? And is that in alignment with the way that God sees me?

David Sandstrom 21:27
Well, you know, one of my favorite verses in the entire Bible just quoted, the first half of it is John 10:10. :The enemy has come to steal, kill and destroy, but I have come at they might have life and have it abundantly." Yes. And I've got to say, I've only met a handful of people that I feel like are really truly living the abundant life God had in mind for them. I think it's very elusive. It's tough to find it, we can get caught up in, as Stephen Covey would say, the tyranny of the urgent, right? The the unimportant things in life tend to be urgent. And the important things in life, what would like what we're talking about right now, is not as urgent. So we put it on the backburner, and it stays there. Because we get too busy and distracted with life, putting out fires.

Crystal Freie 22:10
That's right, we get busy, and we forget that we need to be productive. Yep. We're busy with life. And we're not productive for the kingdom of God.

David Sandstrom 22:20
Absolutely. So it's my contention. If anybody's listened to this podcast for any length of time, they know that I love this phrase is that we maximize our health potential, by aligning our lives more fully with God's natural design for our spirit, mind and body. And a big component of the spiritual part to health is getting in alignment with our purpose and calling. So now that you've done that, and you've been doing that for a couple of years, I guess, how has that impacted your health, you talked about how negatively impacted your health before you made the transition, how has your health benefited as a result of making the switch?

Crystal Freie 22:55
One of the most priceless benefits that I have received from or that I've experienced, from aligning my life with God's calling and purpose for me, is the sense of peace that I have. Like I used to wake up in the morning and I would, I used to work outside of the house, go into an office, I struggled a lot with traffic. I'm sure some of your listeners relate can relate to that when you have Yes, when you have a long drive, sometimes traffic can be a little bit of an issue. But even after even after we all got sent home once the pandemic started, even getting up and not having those stressors, you know, the external stressors just waking up. And knowing that I had to come sit in my office and do this work for this company that I didn't belong to anymore, that I wasn't supposed to be at any more. I would wake up and just not have the motivation to go and do my work. I still did my work. I struggled through it, you know, because that's part of who I am. I want to make sure that I'm I'm performing with excellence even if I don't feel it. And but it was just such my emotional and my mental health. Were just in this place of I don't want to do this. I don't want to do this. And you cannot be like you cannot live a joyful life when you wake up in the morning with I don't want to do this today.

David Sandstrom 24:31
Yeah. Yeah. And that that attitude is very physically draining right. Yes. Suck your energy, right out of you, qnd the converse when you're when you are working or operating in your calling? You are energized. God will give you the energy and the mental clarity and everything you need to accomplish that I firmly believe that we're God guides God provides and if he's called me to teach a class and this is in God's will and it's in alignment with My purpose in my gifts and talents, then he's going to give me the energy to come through. And I see it happen over and over again, my wife and I have been leading marriage groups for the past seven years. And I lead the group and I have a presentation that I make. And I always feel energized, I always look forward to it with great anticipation. And I've always energized what I do that it's never a downer for me, I'm always uplifted. And for me, that's confirmation that I am walking in God's will. I think another way to, to know that you're in God's will, is something that comes easy to you may not come so easy to other people. Other people may find it very, very difficult. And you think, well, everybody can do this? Well, actually, no, that's very difficult for most people, you find it easy, because it's part of your giftedness. And it's part of your calling, and therefore that's confirmation that you are operating in alignment with God's will.

Crystal Freie 25:53
You're exactly right, David, you know, we all have incredibly beautiful, unique talents and gifts. And the key is that we're all created with these individual gifts, to share them with the world, you know, to share them, for the glory of God, to share them, to allow God to have that glory and honor for gifting us in this way. And when we aren't using those gifts and talents, you know, you feel the mental, the physical, the emotional, the spiritual stress. Whereas just like you were saying, conversely, when you are using those in the manner that God intended you to use them for the purpose of bringing God the glory for that you do feel energized, your physical, there's a complete difference between how I feel physically in my body, between when I was still at my corporate job, and now that I am no longer there. I wake up in the morning, and the very first thing I do if my eyes open, thank you, like, Thank you for a new day, you obviously aren't done with me yet. So let me go ahead and start my day in gratitude, and give it over to you so that you can use it to bless the people that you need me to bless. I am nothing more than a vessel. Right? I have come to this place where I realized that it's not about like, it's not about crystal. It's not about what crystal wants in life, you know, all these things. It's about Yes, all those things are good. But it's about really surrendering myself, and really surrendering my life and being the vessel for whatever it is that God needs me to do. I think I mentioned earlier, I never would have imagined being a speaker. I hated public speaking, my whole face would turn red. I couldn't breathe. I mean, hands would shake and sweat, my voice would crack. It was absolutely horrifying to me. And now there's the it brings me so much joy to be able to speak about things to be able to talk to people, you to be a speaker. So because that is now here, in the alignment of the calling that God has placed on my life, and now that I've fully stepped into it, you're right. He's made the path and he's providing along the way.

David Sandstrom 28:18
Absolutely. You know, I don't think it's any accident that we're having this conversation this morning. In my devotional time this morning, I came across this verse, I read this note, it's really appropriate to what we're talking about. It's Acts chapter one, verse eight, but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you shall be My witnesses, both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and Samaria, even to the remotest part of the earth. So that we receive power when God comes upon us and comes alongside of us, to empower us to work with him in accomplishing his mission here on earth, he wants to use us as vessels. I'd like to talk about this a little bit. There's a phrase in Christian circles that you hear a lot. Well, you need to let go and let God and I think that's good in some cases, is good advice. But I think it's easy to to kind of cop out and say, Yeah, you know, God's got this, you know, he's going to handle it. No, God wants to partner with us. He's chosen to partner with us. I mean, the obvious, we can always look to nature learn something about God. I mean, look at procreation. God can make people he made Adam. Right, exactly. But but he chooses to use two people to come together to make a new person. And I mean, it's a it's a real visual picture of how God wants to use us as vessels as conduits of sharing his love here in a broken fallen world. Your thoughts on that?

Crystal Freie 29:42
Actually, yes, it's so funny. And again, the timing. The timing couldn't be more perfect. Yesterday, I started a study and just on my own a study in the book of Ephesians. So I'm starting at the beginning and I'm going all the way through. And I'm really just digging into it and seeing for whatever reason, I don't know yet. But for whatever reason, God gave me the book of Ephesians and said, Go study. So that's I'm being obedient to listen. But in the very opening chapter, or either the chapter one, verse 3 through 14 talks about the spiritual blessings in Christ. And that, you know, we have already been blessed in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ. Like he didn't give us just a little bit. You know, he didn't give us some or few, but we have access to every spiritual blessing, because that's what He has given. And he chose us before He created the world. I'm paraphrasing, of course, but you know, he chose us. But he chooses us to partner with him, so that His will, will be done. Yeah. And I think you're right, we oftentimes forget, or maybe we, like you said, Maybe we just kind of use it as a cop out to say, well, you know, if God wants this to happen, it's going to happen, right? Well, like yes, and no, like, if God wants it to happen, absolutely, he can and will make it happen. But he's chosen you to be the one who brings it to fruition. In the earthly plane. Yeah. And when we step aside from that, now, there are many times where I have, I've received something and I've said, You know what, God, this is really big. So if you want this done, I'm going to need your help, you know, like, I will do my part, I will do what you asked me to do. But this is bigger than what I can do alone. So I'm going to need your help. So I trust that if this is what you want me to do, then you're going to come alongside me. And you're going to fill in the gaps where you know, where I am weak, your strength will prevail. It's a partnership, a relationship?

David Sandstrom 31:59
Absolutely. It's really good stuff. And, you know, that's one of the things I concluded from writing the book is that, yeah, we can do things to improve our health. But ultimately, God is sovereign. But He expects us to do our part and he'll do his right. He's always there providing the air, he's always there providing the food, he's always there, providing the sunshine and the things we need for life, he does his part. And he expects us to do ours. And that's part of my message is to encourage people to take that role on willingly and accept the personal responsibility aspect to our own health, we don't want, you know, sometimes a health challenge might be just what God uses to speak to somebody and grab their attention. He is the great physician. But let's not let our poor choices cause a health challenge that God would have preferred to spare us from, because he's a loving Heavenly Father, in any loving Father wants what's best for his kids, he'd prefer that his kids learn their lessons without the trial. So he'd prefer not to use the physical trial, but he might use it if he has to. That's right. There's a balance there. There really is.

Crystal Freie 33:03
There really is, and especially as you talk about this trifecta, and I love the concept. I'm a visual person. So when I think you know, Mind, Body Spirit, like my brain crafts, this like kind of a Venn diagram, you know, where there's like Mind, Body Spirit, and then the one little space there where all three of these circles overlap, like that right there. That's your ultimate spot. When you have good health, in your mind, good health and your spirit, good health in your body. That's when you can, I hate to say the word perform, but that's when you can perform at your optimal level. Yeah, you can be like, you can be exactly what God needs you to be in order to carry out your purpose and calling in this life.

David Sandstrom 33:56
Right? So we're those three things, those circles or wherever you want a vision overlap. That's your sweet spot.

Crystal Freie 34:03

David Sandstrom 34:04
Right. That's where you have your most productivity. I know I've got an MBA and in business school, they taught us when you're looking at an xy chart, and there's two lines that are moving across that chart where they intersect. There's something going on that's that's a special point that's going on right there. Well, we have three parts to our being when they intersect, there's something going on there and it's very, very good. It's good for our health. It's good for the Kingdom. It's good for the people we come in contact with our sphere of influence, it's a very positive thing.

Crystal Freie 34:34
And you know, you talk about our you know, our sphere of influence and good for the kingdom. That's something you know, just in case your your listeners have never taken the taking the time to really think about it. When we operate from that sweet spot when we operate from that true level of abundance. What happens is we are so full that it pours out on to everyone around us. Yeah, you know, the same can't pour from an empty cup. And a lot of people use that now to talk about things like self care and resting and things of that nature and absolutely 100% I'm a big proponent of self care. God Himself gave us the example when he rested on the Sabbath. Yeah, so you know, that is very important for us. But we it's not just about, it's not just about one facet of our lives. When you are overflowing. When you are in that sweet spot and you are overflowing with abundance, it touches everything, it touches your relationships. It touches how you perform in your job. If you are if you happen to be a stay at home, mom, it touches you know, touches how you parent your kids. It touches how it touches how you do everything, the decisions that you make. Yeah, all of that. And so yeah, getting into that sweet spot. I think it should be where all of us are striving to get to and stay there in that sweet spot so that we can truly live the abundant life.

David Sandstrom 36:10
Absolutely. I know that you talk about your avatar, her name is Sarah. Yeah. So just in case Sarah is listening. Can you describe for the for the natural nation who Sarah is in what she's like?

Crystal Freie 36:23
Absolutely. Yes, my Sarah, I pray over my Sarah's I asked God to show me where my Sarah is our my Sara's. So Sarah is a married woman, she is between 35 and 45, she is very likely in a corporate job. In that situation, she's received or worked her way to gain a lot of success. But she is very much missing something. And there is a point of frustration, a constant feeling that there is something more. And that is exactly what I have been put here to help Sara with is uncovering the feeling of something more, finding what it is that God has truly called her to do. So that she can walk fully in that calling in her purpose, and live as the full expression of who God created her to be.

David Sandstrom 37:30
Excellent. I love it. I know that sounds scary, right? You know, leaving the corporate job or even leaving your your role as a as a homemaker. Maybe your kids are ready to leave the nest. And now what you know, it's a little scary. So I believe fear is something the enemy will use to paralyze us. And as you said earlier, keep us from doing good things. He accomplishes his mission if he can just stop us from participating in Kingdom work. So can you speak to the to the fear aspect of making the shift in mindset?

Crystal Freie 38:03
Yes, this is again, a topic that I am very, I'm intimately aware of fear.

David Sandstrom 38:13
Aren't we all right?

Crystal Freie 38:14
Yes. And here's the thing, fear disrupts your faith. And that is one of the the main messages that I have come to really understand and acknowledge and dig deep into is that fear disrupts your faith. And we cannot have both in the same spot. You know, we can't be oh my gosh, I don't know what I'm going to do. I don't know what I'm going to do. Oh, but I'm going to trust, we can have one or the other but not at the same time. We can go back and forth, but not at the same time. Right. So when we're looking at what that fear does to us, that fear will paralyze us, it will put us in a place of questioning, it will put us in a place of doubting, doubting our self, doubting whether or not what we believe we're hearing is really coming from God. And the fear will really pull into into the front of our mind, all of the lies that the enemy has told us, we will get into a place when we start to move into something that is very much in alignment with our calling. And I've experienced this myself a number of times when we start to make that shift, and we really start to move into where God is leading us for the glory of His kingdom. Things that you haven't thought about in years will come back up and they will they will surface with such urgency that you will you will stop because oh well. What what is this person going to think? What is my what is my mother in law gonna think about this. What is my mother going to think about this? What is your what are my children going to think about? This, what if all I've ever done is, you know, be a homemaker which listen, any any of my Sara's out there who are currently homemakers or have spent time as homemakers. I know where you are, I did that with both of my children. But you start to get that doubt of, well, this is how they see me. And it's the other it's your perception of what other people think that feeds the fear that feeds the doubt, when you try to start shifting over into changing and doing the work that God has called you to do. Because for whatever reason, many of us are very consumed with what other people think about us, when what we should be consumed with is what does God think about us, is what I'm doing right now pleasing to Him as what I'm doing right now fulfilling the purpose and the calling that he's placed on my life. And so I think that that is really where we struggle and fear will take a hold in that because it's a moment of weakness for us. Yeah. And that will allow all of those doubts all of the negative self talk, well, gosh, you know, again, we'll stay with the homemaker example. I'm just a homemaker. I can't do X, Y, and Z, you know, I can't start a t-shirt business. I can't start a shop on Etsy. You know, whatever it is that, you know, I can't write a New York Times bestselling book. That fear feeds the doubt. And again, it's just it only has to get to a point where we don't move, it only has to get to a point where we pause.

David Sandstrom 41:49
So would you say that the secret to overcoming this fear is just playing to that audience of one just considering? What does God think about this is that the number one way or there are other ways to get over the fear?

Crystal Freie 42:00
That is the number one way is to you have to build your faith and your trust so that it is greater than your fear, the fear never goes away. I want to make sure that I say that because a lot of times, especially today, we're looking for an anedote, you know, like, will give me the cure to fear. Right, right. There is no cure to fear, like it's always going to be there, the devil is always going to try. But when we position ourselves, when we are in the word every day, when we are asking God, what do you want from me today? And then it's not always like, what do you want me to do for the next five years? God? What do you want me to do today? How can I serve you today? And I think bringing it back from the broad view down into this very narrow, God, what do you want me to do today? And then keeping in mind that when that fear comes, when the doubts come, God has given us the beautiful gift of free will and choice. So when the fear comes, when the doubt comes, we then have a choice. We can entertain the self doubt and the fear. Or we can recognize it for what it is, which is an attack on us. And we can say you know what? No, thanks. Not today. God, how would you have me handle this? You know, and just redirecting our focus back on to the one who has all of the answers for us.

David Sandstrom 43:38
Yeah, that's great stuff. So something that goes along with this, this is I want to kind of wrap up with this. And that is you have an acronym called salt. And I think that kind of helps walk people through this process. Can you talk about salt for a minute?

Crystal Freie 43:52
Absolutely. And I love this so much. Salt is an acronym that I've adopted to explain what this journey what this process of self discovery looks like. And the first the S is see, because first we must learn to see ourselves, really see ourselves the way that God sees us. The A stands for acccept, because we have to then accept who we are, like all of our quote, unquote, flaws, and all of those things, the things that we're not really happy about with ourselves. They're all part of who we are and who God created us to be. And if we look at ourselves, and we start with the negative self talk, and again, been there for a very, very long time, and doubting the creation that God made us and putting down the creation that God made us. Well, what are we telling God? Oh, you made a mistake, that you made a mistake with me because I'm not supposed to have you know, blonde hair. I know this is audio and you're listeners can't see me. But yeah, I'm not supposed to have blonde hair like God, you messed up, like no, you know? Right. So we have to see ourselves, we have to accept who we are. And then we can learn to love ourselves the way that God loves us. There is nothing more parallel. Yes, that is the L in salt. Yes, that is the L, there is nothing more powerful than God's love. And when we really truly begin to understand the way that God loves us, and you know that there is no, there is no limit to God's love for us, our human minds cannot actually fathom the the level, the deep level of love that God has for us, we can when we can see that we can start to love ourselves. And then the T in salt. When we put the s the A and the L together, we get the t which is the transformation. When we can see ourselves when we can accept who we are, who God created us to be, when we can love that creation. That is when transformation will really begin to happen in our lives.

David Sandstrom 46:21
Excellent. And I will contend that when you do that, you're going to be happier, the people around you are going to notice and you're going to be healthier at all levels.

Crystal Freie 46:29
Absolutely. Absolutely.

David Sandstrom 46:32
Great stuff. Great stuff. Crystal. Well, thank you so much for sharing your wisdom. If someone wants to get ahold of you, what's the best way to do that?

Crystal Freie 46:40
The best way to do that they can visit my website, which is spell that it's And from there, they can send me a contact, you know, send me a message. I'm across all social media platforms, just Crystal freie. It is an interesting spelling on the last name. It's FREIE, there's only one of me. It's not too hard to find me. When you plug it in. I usually come right up.

David Sandstrom 47:20
Excellent. Well, there's only one of me. But there are some other people on social media with the same name. But there's only one of me.

Crystal Freie 47:27
Very true. Very true. There's only one of all of us.

David Sandstrom 47:32
That's exactly right. Well, thank you, Crystal so much. I really enjoyed our time together.

Crystal Freie 47:36
David, it's been a pleasure. I pray that this has blessed your listeners. And I really do appreciate the opportunity to be here with you today.

David Sandstrom 47:45
All right, thank you. For more, Go to In the show notes for each episode, you'll find links to all the resources that were mentioned, as well as a full transcript with timestamps that you can download for free. In addition, I always include a content upgrade with each show, which is a free download that is designed to help you go deeper with that subject. Once again, thank you for listening, and I'll talk with you next week. Be blessed

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