by David Sandstrom 

July 19, 2020

In this episode I talk with Dr. Mike Halan about why chiropractic care should be a part of your health-building regimen. 

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Show Notes

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Today's Guest...

  • Dr. Mike Halan
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What You'll Learn...

  • What Chiropractic care is
  • The training and education that chiropractors receive
  • What conditions are best treated with chiropractic care
  • How to get over any possible intrepidation about seeing a chiropractor
  • What Applied Kinesiology is and why it is so useful
  • How to get the most out of your chiropractic visit
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Transcript... 


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David Sandstrom 0:00
Welcome to the Holistic Health Matters podcast where it's all about maximizing your health potential in body, mind and spirit, so that you can pursue the abundant life more effectively. I'm your host, David Sandstrom, Naturopathic Doctor and Biblical Health Coach. And this is episode number four.

All right, today we've got a guest on the show. His name is Dr. Mike Halan, and he graduated from Life Chiropractic College in 1995. And he's been practicing chiropractic in the Atlanta area since 1996. And he has seen thousands of patients over the years. He sees anybody from newborn infants to the elderly. And one of the features of his practice is he uses applied kinesiology. Dr. Mike, welcome to the Holistic Health Matters podcast and I'd like to start things off by asking you to tell us something interesting about yourself that most people don't know.

Dr. Mike 1:01
Well, when I was two years old, I was hospitalized for pneumonia. I almost died. Wow. And, and I was kind of a sickly kid up until that point and following that until about the age of seven when I got under chiropractic care of myself.

David Sandstrom 1:15
So what led you to seek out chiropractic care at the age of seven?

Dr. Mike 1:19
Well, my mom was seeing a chiropractor for a neck injury, and he noticed that I was kind of sickly looking, I had dark circles under my eyes. I always had a runny nose. And he asked if he could evaluate me and my mom said, Yeah, sure, you can take a look at him. So he identified some misalignments in my cervical spine that were the result of a forceps, cesarean delivery where the obstetrician and he elonggated my cervical spine and damaged it. So I proceeded to get chiropractic care for the first time. And after just a few months, my health profile completely changed.

David Sandstrom 1:55
Wow. Wow, that's incredible. So I'm assuming that experience helped spark an interest in you in natural and holistic healing methods.

Dr. Mike 2:06
Yeah, it wasn't just that but, you know, my mom was still under that allopathic model. So when I would get a runny nose or what appeared to be a cold she takes me to the family medical doctor and his solution was always a shot of antibiotics and a few days off of school and it was routine that never quite made sense to me.

David Sandstrom 2:28
Yeah, that's, unfortunately that's all too common, isn't it? Doctor just wants to see you for a few minutes and write your script and send you on your way. It's unfortunate, but that's the way it is. Remember the movie Back to the Future to when the older Biff went back in time and gave the younger Biff, the sports Almanac and that set his whole future in a different light. If you could go back in time and talk to the younger Mike, when you were first getting started in natural and holistic health, what advice would you give him

Dr. Mike 3:01
Well, I would tell him to not try to fix everything on everyone. When I first got out of school, I was very enthusiastic and gung ho to really change people's lives. And I didn't often listen to exactly what it is that they wanted from me. So I would try to involve myself in their dietary life and their exercise life and other aspects of the personal life. And it was only with the desire to try and help these people achieve true wellness. But I found over time that patients weren't very compliant with exercises I'd give them or dietary changes I would recommend. So after a while, I learned, you know, I'm fulfilling a certain desire in the patients in terms of assistance for what they want, but they don't want me involved in every aspect of their life. And when I finally came to realize that I stopped taking a lot of the burdens of practice management home with me, and I think it actually made me a better practitioner. Because I started to listen more and understand better what it is that patients wanted.

David Sandstrom 4:06
That's really interesting. So when you were at that point in time, were you frustrated thinking to yourself, Why don't these people want to get better?

Unknown Speaker 4:17
Yeah, it was very frustrating to me. Why weren't they as enthusiastic as I was? Why didn't they desire to know the information that I wanted to impart on them? Yeah. So it was a bit of hubristic of me. But it really just came from a place of enthusiasm to get out there and make a change in the world.

David Sandstrom 4:34
Yeah. So I'm assuming that after you came to that realization, and made those adjustments that probably enhance the effectiveness of your practice.

Dr. Mike 4:43
Yes. And I learned to discriminate what patients wanted to go to the next level and what patients were working, I'm sorry, looking for information to better their lives and not just come in and have their pain resolved or, you know, their symptoms modified.

David Sandstrom 4:58
Yeah. So you I'm assuming you would do more listening and ask more questions and then base your your, your approach on what they said what they told you.

Dr. Mike 5:09
Yeah, it It teaches you to be a better listener, it teaches you to be a much better diagnostician. Yeah, and ultimately a better practitioner, because if I'm not giving a patient what they came in for, then, you know, they're not going to continue under care, and they can't see the ultimate best possible results in what I have to offer.

David Sandstrom 5:31
So that that's great, Mike, thanks a lot and double HM friends, I just want to emphasize, when you do see a practitioner, such as a chiropractor, what Mike is saying is it's going to help him out a lot if you communicate well and tell him exactly what you what your needs are and what you want in that way he can tailor his approach to you as an individual.

Dr. Mike 5:51
Well, I'll tell you a cute little story that goes along with this. As I always I've learned to ask very leading questions when doing health history, especially when someone doesn't put much in When it comes to accidents and trauma, so if they don't indicate that they've been hospitalized, I'll ask them if they're sure that they've never had a hospitalization never rode in an ambulance. And the reason I became aware that it was necessary to do this is I had been pain treating a patient for some time, who was doing really, really well. And he offhandedly said, Yeah, that was like when I had that knife in my head. And I was like, wait, excuse me. What knife in your head? What, did I miss something? He says, Yeah, I didn't tell you. He says I I got attacked and I had a knife. sticking out of the top of my head. I had to go to the hospital. They had to remove the knife from my head. Fortunately, there were no side effects. But so I learned them that you can't trust what patients write on the history forum. Wow.

David Sandstrom 6:43
That's pretty amazing.

Dr. Mike 6:45
Yeah, in his mind, it wasn't germane to the reason he was there. But for me, it was very important information and it kind of changed my perspective on on what that patient's entirety of their issues were.

David Sandstrom 6:58
Wow, that is an amazing story and a good lesson for all of us. Thanks for sharing that. Okay. You know, when I obviously I'm a fan of chiropractic, you know that. And when I tell people that they ought to consider finding a good chiropractor, I often tell them, you know, not all chiropractors are created equal. They have various various levels of experience, and they have various levels of capabilities and things that they're in to, you know, chiropractors tend to specialize in certain area. And a patient or client has to find a chiropractor that's right for them. They might have to try a couple different ones before they find the right fit.

Dr. Mike 7:37
Yeah, I like to say to patients, you know, we're all a jigsaw puzzle, and different physicians have different pieces of that puzzle to help fill it in. And I've refer people to other chiropractors over the years who do work that I don't do, because I thought it would be a better fit. And I've referred patients to all manner of specialists because I've identified either during a health history or during You know, early phases of care that they need someone else's expertise. Yeah. And I'm completely open to working with people that have that expertise, because I don't have all the answers. I just have a few of those jigsaw puzzle pieces.

David Sandstrom 8:13
Well, you know, that's a really huge point. And the human body is so complex. You know, I wrote the book, "The Christians Guide to Holistic Health", it's challenging enough to address our physical concerns. But when you consider that human beings have a mental emotional component and a spiritual component, and those powerfully impact our physical vitality, there is not a chance that a single practitioner would have all the answers, Correct?

Dr. Mike 8:41
Correct. Absolutely. Correct. Yeah. And a lot of people and I'm sure we'll get into this later in the interview, they fall into the western medicine model. But oftentimes using a general practitioner, MD, as the gatekeeper, and the diagnostician to figure out what you need is oftentimes a mistake. And I guess we'll address that more in the interview in terms of the the pitfalls of Western medicine and how people can get on a merry go round of, you know of drugs and that type of thing because they've they've entered into the wrong model.

David Sandstrom 9:14
Yes, absolutely. Yeah. We'll get to that in a minute. If somebody could only remember one thing about this interview, what would you like them to remember

Dr. Mike 9:24
That a person's health is in their own hands. Socrates wrote about this and many philosophers over the years that we are our primary physician, because although we have the ability to describe to someone the symptoms we're having or how we're feeling, we were given an innate analytical sense of how our body works. So listening to that innate intelligence inside us, which you could identify as God given. For those who subscribe to a more secular, evolutionary worldview. You could describe that as a genetic superiority or you know, genetic influence. But that that innate intelligence and voice that you have inside you should guide every aspect of your life of course, but it should specifically guide how you interpret how your body is working and the changes that you need to make. We know instinctively, when given a choice between zucchini, or broccoli versus a milkshake and french fries. We intrinsically know what our body needs and what our body should avoid. But we use our cultural mind to override those innate decisions that innate voice and will often make bad decisions. So listen to your body, let your body dictate what you need, and never take any physicians word when they say they know what you need. If that information Is countered to what your innate intelligence is telling you. It's the wrong advice.

David Sandstrom 11:06
That's That's great advice. I love it. Yeah, it's always good to have a healthy dose of skepticism, isn't it? One of the things that I often hear one of the criticisms of chiropractic is that well, they're not real doctors. And you know, they're there's a lot of quacks out there. So talk a little bit about what kind of education a chiropractor gets and what the licensure requirements are and that kind of thing.

Dr. Mike 11:29
Well, a Doctor of Chiropractic degree is a four year degree. It is dependent upon someone having a bachelor of science and biology, so that the foundational information about biology, biochemistry and physiology is there. We spent a lot more time than the MD does in their four year degree. We spend a lot more time with diagnostics and physiology. So if you have a chiropractor coming out of school versus an MD out of school, that chiropractor knows volumes more about how the body works, then the MD does. Now this wasn't necessarily the case at the turn of the century. But because the western allopathic model is so in line with the use of prescription pharmaceuticals, the medical profession and medical schools have had to shift a lot of their curriculum to how to prescribe and how to deal with toxicology and interaction of drugs. They spend very little time on physiology outside of pharmaceuticals. They spend very little time on diagnostics compared to what they used to do. So instead of changing the curriculum and adding in, say another year's worth of study, to deal with pharmaceuticals and toxicology, they have trimmed away some of the most important components of the medical education to make room for that. And unfortunately, because the pharmaceutical industry is the largest donor to private medical institutions, They have a lot of say and what that curriculum looks like.

David Sandstrom 13:04
Yeah. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but what I hear you saying is, there's a time and a place for drugs and surgery. But using that as our frontline defense for health and wellness is probably not the wisest move.

Dr. Mike 13:16
Absolutely true. If God forbid, a parent gets a phone call that their child has been killed in a car crash, it's time for a Xanax. But if someone is just experiencing that they're not as fulfilled in life as their neighbor. And on a daily basis, they deal with a little bit of sadness. That's not the circumstance where somebody should be described as an anti anxiety medicine or an anti depressant. Unfortunate in our culture today. We all want to live this perfect lifestyle. And we also want to do it on an emotional level. So that's just one example of how pharmaceuticals are overused in our culture.

David Sandstrom 13:52
Yeah, the MDSs will psychiatrist or MDS these days and what they do is prescribe they don't spend a whole lot of talking to people about the example you just use, you know, you're feeling a little down a little blue. So they walk out with a prescription. Instead of well let's let's talk about some of the whys and what you can do to change your thinking and more holistic natural methods. Just they just jump right into the drugs, which is oftentimes the wrong the wrong approach.

Dr. Mike 14:19
So if I could circle back to your question about, you know, what do people need to know about chiropractors? So when we come out of school, we have a very strong sense, given this four year degree in, in sciences with biology and now this four year curriculum that is heavily heavily engineered for a great understanding of physiology, biochemistry, biomechanics, if any buddy understands how the body works and what the body needs. From a natural standpoint, it's chiropractors,

David Sandstrom 14:48
yeah, I couldn't agree more. It's absolutely true. Do chiropractors have to go through? Are they required to have any continuing education to keep their licensure

Dr. Mike 15:00
Yes, we're required to do 40 hours of continuing education every two years. Some people will do that 20 hours per year, some people will knock it out 40 hours every two years. And the majority of that is new clinical information that has been either peer reviewed studied information in chiropractic care, physiology, orthopedics, or technique, how do we do our job on a daily basis? How do we adjust the spine? How do we evaluate the spine? How do we evaluate for other conditions that we either need to treat or refer out for and then a much smaller component of that bi annual education has to deal with changing laws and, you know, things that might affect us on a on a legal or administrative level.

David Sandstrom 15:47
Okay. So Mike, I would imagine there's some people listening that have never been to a chiropractor, but are interested. So for that listener, could you tell them what chiropractic care actually is?

Dr. Mike 16:00
So chiropractic care is most famously known for treating musculoskeletal conditions. And we like to say that pain brings people in, but improved body function keeps them in practice. So if someone has a neck injury from automobile accident or a slip and fall, if they experienced chronic headaches, if they get a low back pain seriously emerges out of nowhere, they'll often find their way into the chiropractor for the very first time. It's at that time we really educate them that chiropractic care is not about pain management or pain relief. Chiropractic care is about balancing the body so that it can work as it was designed to do. Your DNA has has been engineered in a way to create this perfect machine that is the human body. But the human body is subjected to all types of insults and injuries throughout the course of a lifetime. We basically turn back the clock in dealing with those injuries and those insults and those insults maybe biochemical those insults may be emotional, not just structural insults. And what those insults do to the body is they create Nervous System stress in Nervous System dysfunction. Now chiropractors specifically look for something called a subluxation, which is a misalignment of a vertebra in the spine, that is putting pressure on either the central nervous system, the spinal cord, or the peripheral nerves that branch out and communicate with every cell, every tissue in the body. When we can remove those impediments to the body, performing at the level it was designed to do. That's when people improve and not just their neck pain or their back pain, they start sleeping better, they start thinking better, their memories work better. They have less stress, less anger, less depression, less anxiety, their digestion functions better. Everything improves because we see those types of misalignments that we treat as impediments to the human body expressing itself. Both Its DNA, and its spirit and its energy. That's what chiropractic is really all about.

David Sandstrom 18:05
Great, great description. I I don't have anything to add to that. That was That was great. Dr. Mike, thank you for that. So if someone is interested in coming to a chiropractor, what, what type of ailment? Does chiropractic excel in? What would be your chiropractor strength area?

Dr. Mike 18:23
Well, we certainly sell in musculoskeletal conditions that we talked about a minute ago. But people are concerned about people that are sort of looking at the western medicine model of drugs and surgery and saying, you know what, that's not for me, because that doesn't really promote wellness. I'm looking for wellness. I'm looking for my body to function at the highest level, that it's possible. I'm going to CrossFit. I'm working out of feeling strong, but I still don't sleep well. I still have to just have issues. I still have reflux. There's certain foods I can't tolerate. I'm not using the bathroom on a daily basis. I'm going to the bathroom maybe twice a week, and I know That's not right. I feel toxic. because of that. Things aren't working in my body, I have a little bit of anxiety, my wife, my wife tells me that I'm too quick to anger. Or my husband says I'm sad all the time, even though we have all these wonderful things in our lives. Any one of these types of conditions and a myriad more can be treatable from chiropractic, if the root cause of these problems or a aggravating cause of these problems is nervous system stress. So chiropractors have been infamously misquoted over the years saying that they can cure anything that isn't what we say. What we say is, it's quite possible that any symptom set that you're presenting may have its root cause in Nervous System irritation, or nervous system, a lack of nervous system coordination, get evaluated by a chiropractor, see if that's a component of the symptom set that you're dealing with. If it isn't We'll find you the doctor that you need to see. But if it is, it's a non invasive natural therapy and treatment plan that can completely change your life.

David Sandstrom 20:10
That's great. You know, I'm just gonna paraphrase you real quick here, Mike's gonna maybe be a little bit simplified. But what Mike is saying here is, you may have a headache and you can get a painkiller for that it will bring you some relief. But your headache is not caused by an aspirin deficiency. It's probably caused by well, it absolutely is caused by something else. And a chiropractor can help do the investigative work to help figure out where the root problem is.

Dr. Mike 20:37
Yeah, right on the money. All right,

David Sandstrom 20:39
Great. Is there anything that I shouldn't see a chiropractor for? Is there anything that's hazardous to go get chiropractic adjustments for?

Dr. Mike 20:47
Well, there's no reason to not go into a chiropractor's office, but oftentimes, we will see a condition that it's best that we don't interfere with, if someone has just been in and out accident and has an acute fracture of the spine, or has torn a ligament evolves the ligament, from the spine or anywhere else on the body that it would be our intent to treat because that's why you're coming in. Some people occasionally come in with very advanced degenerative conditions that were at a point where chiropractic would no longer be beneficial to that condition, and could aggravate that symptomatology.

David Sandstrom 21:29
So what you're saying Mike is use some common sense. If you have an acute condition, especially something like a fracture, you might want to wait until the acute condition is over with and then go see a chiropractor.

Dr. Mike 21:41
Yes, we've had circumstances where patients have been in a car accident and they will call me 10 minutes after and they have pretty severe symptomatology. And I will tell them, go to the emergency room. Yeah, take the ambulance ride, go to the music emergency room, if you can get evaluated there because if you do have an acute injury that requires medical attention. That's what you do first, and then come in and see me afterward. Yeah, we'll deal with the aftermath of that injury. That was not something that you needed, our care for.

David Sandstrom 22:13
That's great advice. You know, I often tell people, allopathic medicine is it shines in the emergency room, you get busted up in a car accident, man, you will be well served going to the emergency room. And when the emergency is over, however, you're better served by natural, holistic methods. And chiropractic is absolutely right up. Right, right along those lines.

Dr. Mike 22:35
Yeah, I have nothing but respect for those folks that work in emergency rooms and emergency medicine. Paramedics are our battlefield physicians that work on the front lines in any war zone. These people deal with the real emergencies. chiropractic is not for emergency medicine. Yeah, chiropractic is to help you rebuild your body and express 100% of your potential that's a chiropractics.

David Sandstrom 23:04
Excellent. What would you say to someone who is, maybe they've been to a chiropractor and they didn't have a good experience, they didn't like it and cracked so and they're afraid to go back and try somebody else.

Dr. Mike 23:19
Well, every once in a while, I'll hear a story from somebody who has had a negative chiropractic experience. And I would find that more often than not, my assessment of those stories comes down to one thing, and that is lack of education passed on from the chiropractor to the patient. If a chiropractor does a very good job of educating the patient about what their problem is, and what is required to help them solve that problem, we usually don't have these types of negative experiences. When a chiropractor moves too quickly, they bypass the education component of the initial consultation, and a patient doesn't have a good idea understanding of the nature of their problem and what it's going to take to solve it. That's the recipe for a bad first chiropractic experience. If someone says I don't like to get cracked or doesn't see the value in something being cracked, I know right away that the chiropractor hasn't explained to them. That that sounds associated oftentimes with a chiropractic adjustment is a benign event that we call a vacuum phenomenon. It's just like when you crack your knuckles and I know that makes some people cringe. But cracking your knuckles isn't going to lead to arthritis. And it's just a byproduct of the realignment of a joint that is misaligned and fixated, the popping or cracking doesn't always happen. But when it does, there's often a really beneficial side effect is endorphins are released around the joint and there's often immediate relief that follows from those endorphins. So the crack is not a bad thing is often a good thing. But if people just can't get past that because it's just too creepy for them. There are low force tech techniques or instrument aided adjusting techniques that are very, very effective that bypass that cracking or vacuum phenomenon. So the crack shouldn't keep anybody out of the chiropractor's office.

David Sandstrom 25:13
All right, good stuff. I can testify that. And you know, this is true with me, Mike, that occasionally when we when we are tuned into that innate intelligence we're talking about a moment ago. Sometimes when you get that adjustment, you feel an immediate tension relief. And you say that that is exactly what I needed. And it's just it's a terrific feeling really is. So Dr. Mike, I'd like to shift gears just a little bit. And we often hear people talk about our bodies as bio-electrical machines. What does that mean to you? Could you could you address that a little bit?

Dr. Mike 25:49
Yeah, sure. We are a multi volt, I'm sorry, a milli volt electrical model the way that our nervous system works. So there are chemical reactions that will actually create an energy. And that energy from those chemical reactions allows nerves to conduct information from one neuron to another neuron, the signals sent from the brain that will eventually read, say, the hand or the heart. It's necessary to have these biochemical electro conductive events to occur. And because we are this millivolt electrical model, and we vibrate and share energy with our environment, it's important that we don't have anything standing in the way of our ability to do that either to can to conduct nerve impulses for daily function, or that stands in the way of sharing information with our environment. Give you an example. When you meet someone for the first time and you shake their hand, there is communication occurring between your body and their body. Now you may not be aware of that communication on a conscious level, but on a subconscious level, your body is interpreting information from that other person Same is true when you pet the dog, you are sharing information. So that's my perspective on how we're this millivolt electrical system.

David Sandstrom 27:13
All right, very good. Thank you for that. I know that you use Applied Kinesiology and your practice. And I it's my experience that it can be very insightful. In fact, I'm going to share a quick story you might not even know that know this, Mike, I don't know if I've shared this with you before, but I came to you a couple of years ago. And I had been to my regular family practice doctor a couple weeks earlier. And he did my annual blood workup. And one of the only thing that came up was that I had high homocysteine and I knew that from the lab work. I came into your office and you did some muscle testing on me and you said, oh, there's something going on with the blood. Let me see. Oh, you have high homocysteine levels. So you were able to figure that out without any lab work right in the office. So talk to me, talk to the the audience about what applied kinesiology is and what it can do?

Dr. Mike 28:04
Well, because we're this millivolt electrical model that works on biochemical reactions that create energy. There are diagnostic approaches that allow a practitioner such as myself, to gain information about a patient. I utilize muscle testing that originated in applied kinesiology based upon something called autonomic down regulation, the nervous system, your listeners don't need to remember that term. But essentially what it is, is we can stress the body or we can stimulate in the body, the body in a way that it will create systemic weakness. So if I were to say establish a strong muscle test, I had to hold your arm out and I, I tested your anterior deltoid and it was strong. If I blew cigarette smoke in your face or had you smoke a cigarette yourself, then that muscle would not be able to sustain a normal contraction to resist the pressure that I put through. It. So this is the methodology of muscle testing through Applied Kinesiology. So I can use this to access information from the acupuncture meridian system. I can use it to not only diagnose nutritional deficiency, but I can use it to dose you for nutritional supplementation. It can be used on an emotional level to help people deal with stored away emotion that may be a roadblock to someone being able to, you know, manage their emotional life. So, the opportunities for use of a technique like this really are endless, and some people debunk it and like to call it Voodoo because it doesn't make sense to them. But this mechanism is why I keep the title for it earlier is very, very well documented and has been used in lots of different disciplines, not just Chiropractic and Applied Kinesiology.

David Sandstrom 29:56
Yeah, that's that's a great explanation Mike. You know, I often hear people say, Well, that sounds like quantum physics, isn't it? And I say, Yes, it is. And they say, well, I don't believe in quantum physics. Well them I ask them. Have you ever listened to an FM radio? Well, sure. Well do you realize that that radio with its antenna is capturing energy that's traveling through the air, invisible energy, and it's harnessing it through the antenna, through the amplifier into the stereo and out to your speakers and duplicating the sound that originated in the studio, maybe in another country?

Dr. Mike 30:36
Well, you know, when Albert Einstein postulated that energy and matter were the same thing, just different phases. Everybody thought he was nuts, right? Yes. And we now know that not only was he not nuts, but he was decades ahead of his time in terms of his thinking about these issues. So quantum physics is obviously a thing we're not for an understanding of quantum physics. We could not have sent a man to the moon and return him back. We could not communicate with the Hubble telescope, or with satellites that we've sent out to explore the cosmos. The technologies that we enjoy on a daily basis, including that smartphone that we enjoy looking at, many of those technologies have their basis in a higher understanding of physics and quantum physics. So it's there; it's real, whether people believe in it or not. And this understanding that matter and energy are the same thing in different phases, also gives us insight into energy medicine, is all energy medicine or things that fall under the banner of energy medicine, legitimate and tested. Not all of it is, if you're, if your practitioner gives you a crystal and tells you to take that crystal home and set it near the bed and absorb the energy or the modification of energy from that crystal very, very hard to quantify that as something both real and effective. So there's a lot of, there's a lot of hope and trust put into that sort of a recommendation. With Chiropractic and Applied Kinesiology, there is immediate change in the physiology of the body and how it works when we do what we do. So there is an immediate, quantifiable and qualifiable result to the work that we do. And it's what kind of separates it from this broad category of energy medicine. We're in there, but we are distinctly observable and provable.

David Sandstrom 32:42
Excellent, good stuff. This is really good stuff. I think people are gonna find this very interesting. So just to recap, what Mike is saying here is chiropractic care is useful for all kinds of things, although not a panacea if we if we have a chronic issue We are well served by seeing a chiropractor and letting them do some of the some of the investigative work. See if we have a biomechanical issue that can be addressed through chiropractic. And if the practitioner can help you with your sleep, well, we do a lot of our healing and repairing while we sleep, just that one thing alone can make a massive difference in your health and wellness. So to wrap things up, Mike, do you have a favorite book that you might recommend for the audience?

Dr. Mike 33:32
I think I think a real LAN a groundbreaking book or a book that can help people really shift their consciousness is a book by David Hawkins called "Power versus Force". And "Power versus Force" doesn't specifically get into chiropractic and what we do, but "Power versus Force' touches on quantum mechanics. It touches on above all things consciousness, how we see the world how we see our bodies, how we see see our purpose in life will dictate for so many people what their priority should be. And "Power versus Force" is one of those books that really changes the mindset. For people who read it. I've lent it out probably 50 plus times over the years to patients and I've never had anyone bring it back who actually read it that didn't say it was one of the most important things they had ever read. I wish I could go into more detail about what it's about. I know you have familiarity with that book. But David Hawkins writings and specifically that book, really have an opportunity to change someone's entire consciousness.

David Sandstrom 34:42
Excellent. Thank you for that. If it's okay with you, Dr. Mike, I'd like to ask one more question. Oftentimes, I get asked, Dave, what is the single most important thing I can do to improve my health? What's the one thing I can do? Where do I start? So what would you say to that question?

Dr. Mike 34:59
I would say that people should starts thinking of sleep as a nutrient. If I wanted to deprive someone of food, they their body would last a long time, they could live up to 30 days without food. If I deprive them of water, they're going to live about three to four days. If I deprive them of sleep, it's not uncommon for people to have some type of catastrophic failure that leads to death within three to four days. So you could go without water longer than you could go without sleep. But if you think of sleep as a nutrient and make it one of the primary things that your body is getting, your body is going to function on a much better level. And I can't tell you how many times I've encountered people that they're doing CrossFit three times a week, they've increased their water intake. they've stopped eating processed foods and are consuming more fruits and vegetables, but there's still only getting four to five hours of good sleep per night. Think of sleep as a nutrient your body requires three REM cycles, rapid eye movement cycles per night. That's the dreaming phase of sleep, it requires three per night for you to do all of the repairs necessary from just the activities of daily living. It also requires that amount of time to save information in your in your brain's RAM and save it to the hard drive. So if you're not getting enough sleep, you're not repairing, you're literally aging faster than you need to. Because there's more demolition and construction going on. You're also not retaining the information that you may have invested a lot of time and expense into acquiring, because it's not being saved to the hard drive, meaning when you need it later. It's not going to be there. So think of sleep as a nutrient in many ways more important than the food that you eat or the exercise that you do. And if you make sleep a priority, that's going to change your life dramatically.

David Sandstrom 36:52
That's awesome. Thank you, Mike. That's really, really good advice. So how can our listeners get ahold of you. If someone wanted to See you or talk to you What? How could they get hold of you?

Dr. Mike 37:02
Well, you can find out more about me on our website for our office Halanchiropractic.com. That's Halan Family Chiropractic, the phone number for our offices 770-609-9374 and we have folks there that can answer most of your questions if you've not been to a chiropractor before. And I'm also always happy to get on the line and field any questions. It's not uncommon for patients to call us when they're on the road, or have other health related questions and can't get in for a visit. And I'm happy to make that time for them and fulfill my primary role of educator.

David Sandstrom 37:37
Okay, thank you. You're number one more time.

Unknown Speaker 37:41
770-609-9374

David Sandstrom 37:45
All right. Well, thank you, Dr. Mike, once again for being so generous with your time and sharing your incredible depth of knowledge with the double HM community. Thanks, David. And remember, for more, you can always go to my website DavidSandstrom.com and search for episode number 4. And there you can find a full transcript of the conversation that is downloadable if you want, as well as links to any of the things we talked about. And if you'd like to reach out to me, you can leave a comment there as well. And as always, I'll talk with you next week. So, until then, be blessed.

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David Sandstrom

I am a follower of Jesus Christ, a Naturopathic Doctor, and a Biblical Health Coach. I am also an Airline Captain for a major airline based out of Atlanta, Ga. I've been helping people maximize their health potential by nurturing their body, mind, and spirit since 2005.

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